MoonChild

It really is B4. I saved my own cat from dieing about 3 years ago. he stopped eating all summer that year and it made him very weak and his system shut down so he became jaundiced and incredibly dehydrated. i paid almost 1000 dollars in credit to have him on an IV for 2 days, plus meds and special foods I had to get in order to syringe it down his throat. apparently when i picked him up at the vet and they were preparing him for his return home he hacked up a hair-tie he had swallowed. (silly cat) they think he was unable to eat because that hair-tie was lodged in there.
at any rate he was so badly weak and miserable he seemed to have lost his will to live or something because i had to syringe feed him for a whole month until he decided to eat the food i would offer to him of his own accord. he hated the syringe. (i even had to syringe WATER down his throat) AND he hated the towel i wrapped him in so he wouldn't be able to struggle away. also, a lot of times he would vomit up what i syringed in and so i would keep syringing it until he had eaten a sufficent amount. (i had to do this 3 TIMES A DAY!) so i think ultimately he gave in because he hated those things so much and he had to accept that i wasn't gonna let him die. he IS my baby after all. i got him for my 13th b-day.
SO anyways, now you'd never know he was sick. for me it was all WELL worth it. I believe NO AMOUNT of money can equal that of a life.

MoonChild

eh, to me alcahol is alcahol. yes some are stronger then others, but then no matter what i simply HATE the taste of alcahol. i've downed shots of some pretty strong stuff without chasers while other people have called me crazy to do so. when i'm playing that game i don't expect to enjoy the alcahol i'm drinking. i've decided i'm going to bring along the southern comfort on this trip simply to get rid of it, as it has been sitting on my counter for over 2 years now. (i can't even remember whose it was, but then everyone seems to leave their alcaholic beverages on my counter quite often) i might as well make use of it, eh? i'm sure few of us will enjoy that sh@t

dark_fairytales

Gremlin is a special cat. there is a reason our family animals live along time, life is priceless. My cat died in 2006, i had her sense i was 7 years of age. She died at 20 years old in shaggys arms, I never cried so hard before.

snowhite

Well John could not help myself got the chair figured better get before there discontunied and cant wait to try it out. Also got me that 7 gallon water jug Chris has im coming prepared this time cause Keith had to help me out in Auburn by bringing me a couple of clamps to one of the heater hoses cause I sprung a leak good thing popped up on monday and not on the trip or get me stuck in stockton this weekend for my DG tourney.

On another note installed a new rad yesterday so rad I F-ED up is no longer an issue

chrismcdowell25

You got the water jugs I have? Where did you get them? How are the liners on the inside of yours?

chrismcdowell25

Also for the fuel version of the can you can get them here...

http://armysurpluskelowna.com/fuel_cans.html

Don't get the spout cause it's a piece of junk. Shipping is also going to be the killer since it comes from canada.

snowhite

Sorry Chris not those although I would like to get my hands on that as well! The blue jug you got from rei I ordered. For anybody else that wants to know http://www.rei.com/product/618168

snowhite

So what spout you use for that can?

John101477

hey snow I had those on the trip and I bought mine at walmart. could have saved some on shipping.

As for the cat, glad he is all fixed up. I have seen people spend that type of dough on horses and really expensive dogs but never a cat. you all know I am not a cat person anyways, although they always seem to like me. I also have issues with fixing broken legs on most animals as it seems in the long run they always end up suffering. depending on the break location it can impair them to the point that the animal is never the same physically or mentally. I do not so much look at it as ending a life but more stopping the suffering. Horses are the worst for this, you can have a horse that is 95% perfect, have ring bone in one leg and the horse is ruined. using butte (pain medication) will only help so much so the horse is in constant pain. far better to stop the pain that other wise.
Also know how that long cry goes after having to put down a loved pet. very hard even when you do not have to do it yourself.

snowhite

Well I bought me 3 of these today.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_44066-51438-2921-002_0_?productId=3033542&Ntt=27%20Gallon%20Strong% 20Box%20Tote%20&Ntk=i_products&pl=1&currentURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=27%20Gallon%20Strong%2 0Box%20Tote

fit perfect and well use of the room in back. So one is just going to be filled up with vehicle recovery, another with food and the other is still up in the air but I was going to get 4 till I realized that was over kill for my set up. 1 MORE WEEK!!!

John101477

hahaha I have been looking at those for 6 months now. My dad bought a bunch when he was putting stuff in storage when he moved. They only fit 2 high in the runner as far as i can tell. I want one for food and one for cooking and utensils. Looking at some heavy canvas tool bags for recovery gear and tools. all in all it free's up a lot of space. When I go with the wife and kid I carry 14 gallons of water and fitting everything is a PITA even with the 48 gallon cargo box.

still on the fence about the trip. we are strugglin pretty bad and I have not heard if I am going to Elko Nv yet to put up wind mills. Might be able if I can get this subwoofer enclosure finished and installed this week. waiting on the guy to get the rest of the parts.

dark_fairytales

well only a week to go. ill see you all there saterday morning for those of you that make it.

If you need any more info. send me a PM

highonpottery

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so what's the plan? meet up at silver lake on Sat. morning--around 9ish?

dark_fairytales

here is the info. you need in the link
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f15/.../#post51474994

stockwell45

iTrader: (1)

Wow. A whole load of 1st gens, one pickup, and one 3rd gen. Its gonna be awesome see you all soon!

RMA

ok so im almost ready, just need to install my new alternator and im ready ..

might have a friend with a landcruiser come also, not sure yet thought .

Hey so nearest gas station to the trail would be in jackson.

RMA

i pmed chris .. see what time hes going maybe we can caravan up there ... id like to leave super early from here.

dark_fairytales

RMA if your friend has a fj55 or higher i would recomend not brining it. the trail gets vary narrow and at some points a large land cruiser just cant make it. To give an exsample i came inches from squeezing between trees and rock on my truck, almost hit my shell. My new shell will make it tougher this time. an older jeep looking landcruiser will be fine.

if you are headed to the trail from hwy 88, Jackson will be the last place you can get gas. if you take hwy 50 pollock pine is the last place for gas as well

B4Runner

What's that again Fairy?

B4Runner

Hey, does anyone by chance know if the gas station(s) in Jackson are open 24/7?