6 speed in a 4th gen?
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this would be double sweet if someone were to put it on a 1st or 2nd gen. I bet the 22r would scream with a 6 speed.
Someone call up advance adapters tell them to make a bell adapter.
Someone call up advance adapters tell them to make a bell adapter.
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It is an R series transmission right? If so wouldn't any R series bellhousing bolt up to it?
Either way they would make a wicked transmission for a 7MGTE swap.
Either way they would make a wicked transmission for a 7MGTE swap.
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It will bolt right up to a 3.4, I saw this demonstrated on another forum. Since the 3.0 is the same block, it can be done on 1st and 2nd gens as well. And yes, I have seen a writeup on toyota-4runner.org of someone successfully swaping the 6 speed into a 4th gen. I'll try to find the link...
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
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Transmission gear ratios
I was really thinking if you could swap the R60/R61 6-speed into a truck or 4runner with a 22re it would be sick, so I did some research on what the different gear ratios are and what the different rpm shift points might be along with the speed. I used a final gear of 4.10 with a 28" tire(stock for an 80's truck/4runner)
G52&G54
First Gear: 3.93:1___15mph@2900rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___30mph@3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.45:1___45mph@3210rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.85:1___75mph@3137rpm
W56
First Gear: 3.954:1___15mph@2915rpm
Second Gear: 2.14:1___30mph@3159rpm
Third Gear: 1.38:1___45mph@3055rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.85:1___75mph@3137rpm
R150F
First Gear: 3.83:1___15mph@2827rpm
Second Gear: 2.06:1___30mph@3041rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3100rpm
R151F
First Gear: 4.31:1___15mph@3181rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___25-30mph@2866-3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3100rpm
R61F
First Gear: 4.17:1___15mph@3077rpm
Second Gear: 2.19:1___30mph@3232rpm
Third Gear: 1.49:1___45mph@3299rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.19:1___50-60mph@2927-3513rpm
Fifth Gear: 1.00:1___65-70mph@3198-3444rpm
Sixth Gear: 0.80:1___75-85mph@2952-3346rpm
If it where to work it would be really awesome to have the 6-speed manual bolted up behind the 3vz or 5vz. Mind you with 37s 5.29 in 6th @ 75mph 2882rpm compared to 3026(R151&R150) or 3062(w56)
G52&G54
First Gear: 3.93:1___15mph@2900rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___30mph@3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.45:1___45mph@3210rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.85:1___75mph@3137rpm
W56
First Gear: 3.954:1___15mph@2915rpm
Second Gear: 2.14:1___30mph@3159rpm
Third Gear: 1.38:1___45mph@3055rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.85:1___75mph@3137rpm
R150F
First Gear: 3.83:1___15mph@2827rpm
Second Gear: 2.06:1___30mph@3041rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3100rpm
R151F
First Gear: 4.31:1___15mph@3181rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___25-30mph@2866-3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3100rpm
R61F
First Gear: 4.17:1___15mph@3077rpm
Second Gear: 2.19:1___30mph@3232rpm
Third Gear: 1.49:1___45mph@3299rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.19:1___50-60mph@2927-3513rpm
Fifth Gear: 1.00:1___65-70mph@3198-3444rpm
Sixth Gear: 0.80:1___75-85mph@2952-3346rpm
If it where to work it would be really awesome to have the 6-speed manual bolted up behind the 3vz or 5vz. Mind you with 37s 5.29 in 6th @ 75mph 2882rpm compared to 3026(R151&R150) or 3062(w56)
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Didn't know what the other transmission were. If you want me to run numbers for other trans too I can do that... just give me the transmission and I will try to find the numbers but honestly the 6-speed swap can only be done with the 1grfe, 2grfe, and 5vzfe swaps
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na just bustin yur
Oh while I am thinking about it someone on I believe ihatemud did this swap in an FZJ80 but don't remember what engine he used. And the photos I believe were either moved or taken down.
Oh while I am thinking about it someone on I believe ihatemud did this swap in an FZJ80 but don't remember what engine he used. And the photos I believe were either moved or taken down.
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It will bolt right up to a 3.4, I saw this demonstrated on another forum. Since the 3.0 is the same block, it can be done on 1st and 2nd gens as well. And yes, I have seen a writeup on toyota-4runner.org of someone successfully swaping the 6 speed into a 4th gen. I'll try to find the link...
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
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It will bolt right up to a 3.4, I saw this demonstrated on another forum. Since the 3.0 is the same block, it can be done on 1st and 2nd gens as well. And yes, I have seen a writeup on toyota-4runner.org of someone successfully swaping the 6 speed into a 4th gen. I'll try to find the link...
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
Personally, I've been toying with the idea of instead of swapping the 5 speed tranny I got for my 4runner, sell it and try to find the 6 speed. Then set that up with an Atlas 4 speed transfer case with the manual shifters. That would be sweet.
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I was really thinking if you could swap the R60/R61 6-speed into a truck or 4runner with a 22re it would be sick, so I did some research on what the different gear ratios are and what the different rpm shift points might be along with the speed. I used a final gear of 4.10 with a 28" tire(stock for an 80's truck/4runner)
seems like a custom bell housing is needed. No?
Did they go lefty on the later (2005+) transfer cases?
anyways it does not sound too hard to make it work, w/ the appropriate spline shaft and bolt patterns.
advance adapters or marlin crawler?
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i just recently picked up a 4.0 v6 and the matching 6 speed from a 2005 tacoma .. I really dont know much about them yet but i can tell you that the tranny wont just bolt up to the 3.0 or the 3.4 .. the tranny is massive with very unique bolt pattern , starter on the left slave bolted on the left also.. here is a pic of a 3.0 auto bell and the 6 speed ..
unless were talking about another 6 speed this one wont bolt up ..
unless were talking about another 6 speed this one wont bolt up ..
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Well I guess that is solid proof.
Heres the thread I read back in the day I got my info from:
http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31496
Maybe they didnt know what they were talking about back in 2004.
Are you gonna try to make some sort of adapter plate to make it fit RMA, or are you just gonna leave it on the 4.0?
Citrus, finally found the link. It was a 4th gen with a swapped in 6 speed, but the motor isn't a 4.0
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-ge...nual-swap.html
Heres the thread I read back in the day I got my info from:
http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31496
Maybe they didnt know what they were talking about back in 2004.
Are you gonna try to make some sort of adapter plate to make it fit RMA, or are you just gonna leave it on the 4.0?
Citrus, finally found the link. It was a 4th gen with a swapped in 6 speed, but the motor isn't a 4.0
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-ge...nual-swap.html
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Well I guess that is solid proof.
Heres the thread I read back in the day I got my info from:
http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31496
Maybe they didnt know what they were talking about back in 2004.
Are you gonna try to make some sort of adapter plate to make it fit RMA, or are you just gonna leave it on the 4.0?
Citrus, finally found the link. It was a 4th gen with a swapped in 6 speed, but the motor isn't a 4.0
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-ge...nual-swap.html
Heres the thread I read back in the day I got my info from:
http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31496
Maybe they didnt know what they were talking about back in 2004.
Are you gonna try to make some sort of adapter plate to make it fit RMA, or are you just gonna leave it on the 4.0?
Citrus, finally found the link. It was a 4th gen with a swapped in 6 speed, but the motor isn't a 4.0
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-ge...nual-swap.html
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R151F
First Gear: 4.31:1___15mph@3181rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___25-30mph@2866-3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3137rpm
R61F
First Gear: 4.17:1___15mph@3077rpm
Second Gear: 2.19:1___30mph@3232rpm
Third Gear: 1.49:1___45mph@3299rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.19:1___50-60mph@2927-3513rpm
Fifth Gear: 1.00:1___65-70mph@3198-3444rpm
Sixth Gear: 0.80:1___75-85mph@2952-3346rpm
First Gear: 4.31:1___15mph@3181rpm
Second Gear: 2.33:1___25-30mph@2866-3439rpm
Third Gear: 1.44:1___45mph@3188rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.00:1___60mph@2952rpm
Fifth Gear: 0.84:1___75mph@3137rpm
R61F
First Gear: 4.17:1___15mph@3077rpm
Second Gear: 2.19:1___30mph@3232rpm
Third Gear: 1.49:1___45mph@3299rpm
Fourth Gear: 1.19:1___50-60mph@2927-3513rpm
Fifth Gear: 1.00:1___65-70mph@3198-3444rpm
Sixth Gear: 0.80:1___75-85mph@2952-3346rpm