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Just switched to using Denso oil filters for my Toyota rigs after years of using other brands. What is strange is how dang cheap they are. I can get a pack of five YZZD1 units (or however many) locally for less than $4.00 each. That's in the realm of the cheapest Fram filters. After paying 20-500% more for other OEM parts, it seems strange Toyota sells these for so cheap at dealerships. Any idea why?
Unless you're trying to filter 10,000 mile oil, or oil in a severely damaged engine, even the cheapest filter will do the job. All filter companies use varying grades of filters, and the OEM Denso is just a cheap, warranty friendly filter.
Denso is now a multi national, check the country of origin. This of course ignores dealership markup and that it's a bit of filter media surround by a metal case and knock off branding.
Be aware that there are counterfeit Denso oil filters out there, so be mindful of where you purchase your filters.
The Genuine Toyota Denso filters are great quality. I have noticed that some maintenance parts like oil filters, oil, spark plugs, etc. are reasonably priced and are right around the same price (sometimes lower) as aftermarket offerings at the parts store.
Not sure what you were buying previously, but the YZZD1 (or YZZD3 if you want a larger oil filter) has always been cheap. I've been buying them in bulk for the last 7 or so years. Every Toyota i've owned has used this filter so the bulk purchasing has always made sense.
My local Toyota parts dealer will not sell me the YZZD1 for my 92 pickup with 22RE engine. Their excuse is that YZZD1 has been superseded which is a fact. I said OK sell me one anyway, and they would not...true story.
My local Toyota parts dealer will not sell me the YZZD1 for my 92 pickup with 22RE engine. Their excuse is that YZZD1 has been superseded which is a fact. I said OK sell me one anyway, and they would not...true story.
I'm planning on using the YZZD1 on my Sienna 3.0 v6 1MZ FE and my 1993 Pickup with 22RE. Is there any issue with using it on the 22RE? Every time I search for OEM filters, the truck is listed as compatible with the filter. My engine has close to 320,000 miles on it with only a timing chain replaced and no other major work done. It doesn't leak a single drop of oil onto the ground and only burns about 1/2 quart every 4,000 miles or so. That's on junky dino oil and cheapo filters and green coolant its whole life LOL.
I'm planning on using the YZZD1 on my Sienna 3.0 v6 1MZ FE and my 1993 Pickup with 22RE. Is there any issue with using it on the 22RE? Every time I search for OEM filters, the truck is listed as compatible with the filter. My engine has close to 320,000 miles on it with only a timing chain replaced and no other major work done. It doesn't leak a single drop of oil onto the ground and only burns about 1/2 quart every 4,000 miles or so. That's on junky dino oil and cheapo filters and green coolant its whole life LOL.
Be aware that there are counterfeit Denso oil filters out there, so be mindful of where you purchase your filters.
The Genuine Toyota Denso filters are great quality. I have noticed that some maintenance parts like oil filters, oil, spark plugs, etc. are reasonably priced and are right around the same price (sometimes lower) as aftermarket offerings at the parts store.
Yeah, I steered clear of Ebay "OEM" filters for sure, along with non-dealership Amazon 3rd party sellers. I'm probably going to get mine locally or have them shipped from Conicelli Toyota. In my research, it's funny how many people wrote how they buy them bulk on Ebay. I wonder how many people have been running counterfeit filters for years without knowing. Although, it seems strange to try and counterfeit something that is already about as cheap as it can get. Counterfeit CV axles and EVAP canisters seem like a much more profitable endeavor.
My local Toyota parts dealer will not sell me the YZZD1 for my 92 pickup with 22RE engine. Their excuse is that YZZD1 has been superseded which is a fact. I said OK sell me one anyway, and they would not...true story.
That is very weird that they would not sell you a YZZD1 filter as it is (or was) specified for the 22R series engines.
Honestly, this is the first time I have heard about a new part number for the oil filters for the 22R series engines.
Upon looking the oil filter up on https://parts.toyota.com/, it appears that the YZZD1 is no longer the specified part number. It is strange that the different part numbers seem to have a circular supersession list where the current specified oil filters (1560144011 and 9091520003) both say they have been replaced by 9091503002 and 0892202004 respectively. Searching for either of those part numbers will link you right back to the first two filters (1560144011 and 9091520003). However, there is a note on part number 1560144011 that says: "See 90915YZZD1", which leads me to believe that they want you to look at 90915YZZD1 as a replacement part number.
All of those part numbers show 90915YZZD1 in the supersessions list.
Now, looking at 90915YZZD1, it shows all of the previous part numbers mentioned listed in its supersessions list.
This leads me to believe that 90915YZZD1 is the current part number for our oil filters. I am going to check on that though. EDIT: a replay to an email from my local Toyota Dealer says that 90915-YZZG2 is the most current part number, but it it isn't listed on any reference to our trucks. Still checking....
I think what Toyota was trying to do is to link all of the different oil filter part numbers together, showing them as equivalent.
Is there another oil filter part number that is specified for the 22R series engines that I missed?
Looking on Toyodiy.com (which shows original part numbers), I see 1560144011 listed for my truck. This means that part number is outdated.
I was just typing as I was looking up stuff. Hopefully that made a little sense...
Last edited by old87yota; 09-02-2020 at 10:07 AM.
Reason: Update
At the time the Toyota parts department told me this, the part number that superseded the YZZD1 was YZZG2. The YZZG2 is made by Purolator here in the USA.
At the time the Toyota parts department told me this, the part number that superseded the YZZD1 was YZZG2. The YZZG2 is made by Purolator here in the USA.
The old 15601-44011 oil filter was sourced from Japan. In the 1990’s Toyota started sourcing more parts from the USA, and that’s when the YZ line was developed. It was a quick way to tell which was which. For the most part the quality between the two sources comparable.
Picked up a couple of these recently at the nearest stealership. Had them stacked up near the parts department. I currently have a mobile 1 filter and the engine will knock for a second during startup (oil light also comes on for a second). But it only happens after I’ve already driven somewhere and restart it within about 15 minutes. I Suspect the mobile 1 filter. Just haven’t gotten around to changing filters yet to prove it.
I replaced the Mobile 1 oil filter with the 90915-YZZD1 and I do not have knock during startup any longer.
I did look up to to confirm if the mobile 1 filter is equipped with the anti drain back valve and it is. I guess this is just another reason to stick with OEM parts.
It’s not just the dealer marking up the price of OEM parts. TMC(Toyota in Japan) sells their parts to TMS(Toyota USA). TMS then sells the parts to the various Regional distribution centers across the country. Two regions are still privately held, but the rest are now owned by TMS. The Regional warehouse then sells to each of the dealers they are assigned to serve. Every entity that it passes through marks it up.
Go onto Amayama and look up the very common rear axle wheel bearing 90363-40022. You can get the bearing in a koyo box for 13.50. Now, look at the same bearing in a TOYOTA box. Now, go to to toyotapartsdeal.com and see the MSRP.
I replaced the Mobile 1 oil filter with the 90915-YZZD1 and I do not have knock during startup any longer.
I did look up to to confirm if the mobile 1 filter is equipped with the anti drain back valve and it is. I guess this is just another reason to stick with OEM parts.
I guess it does make a difference in how much flow the filtering media can handle, along with how stiff the bypass valve is set. I wonder if Toyota knows that oil flow is ultimately more important than filtering down 99% of 20-30 micron particles? On the other hand, I've always used cheapo off-brand filters and dino oil for decades and every car I've owned still had a running engine even after 200-300K miles when I sold it.
09-01-2020, 01:24 PM
