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I will be using rust converter/encapsulator on the INSIDE OF MY FRAME RAILS and blasting and painting the outside of frame with something else.
What would you use on the inside? To clarify I am looking for the best brush on product to "soak" the inside of the frame rails for longest lasting protection. I am not looking for products that will need to perform in any area (sanding, sheen, or anything) besides soaking and sealing rusty insides for good.
Por-15
Chassis saver
others....?
Somebody hit me with some chemistry knowledge on what is actually the best application for inside the frame rails and I would love to hear some of the best products that are rarely mentioned before I turn to the ever so talked about Por-15 or Chassis saver. Does aliphatic indicate a profuct that cures with moisture? I imagine this would be best but am also not familiar with how a priduct would "convert" rust. Are there rust converting products that are aliphatic?
Maybe i should create an account on a chemistry forum
I will be using rust converter/encapsulator on the INSIDE OF MY FRAME RAILS.
How do you plan to do that?
It's not what you asked, but I remember a guy who made a "pool" to put the truck frame inside and remove the rust with electrolysis.
Something like this:
How do you plan to do that?
It's not what you asked, but I remember a guy who made a "pool" to put the truck frame inside and remove the rust with electrolysis.
Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83xMYAnCOI
After that fluid film inside the rails.
I am just going to macgyver an array of sponges and brushes and snake them inside the frame rails by all means neccessary. I will be be removing flaking rust and rust that is already loose and sitting in there with a combination of setting the frame vertical and banging/blowing my heart out (i am working with just the frame so setting it vertical is not an issue) then degreasing the best i can to remove any oils/grease that may prohibit whatever product i use from adhering to the rust...
How do you plan to do that?
It's not what you asked, but I remember a guy who made a "pool" to put the truck frame inside and remove the rust with electrolysis.
Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83xMYAnCOI
After that fluid film inside the rails.
I am just going to macgyver an array of sponges and brushes and snake them inside the frame rails by all means neccessary. I will be be removing flaking rust and rust that is already loose and sitting in there with a combination of setting the frame vertical and banging/blowing my heart out (i am working with just the frame so setting it vertical is not an issue) then degreasing the best i can to remove any oils/grease that may prohibit whatever product i use from adhering to the rust...
I considered the whole pool idea but I don't think that it would remove all of the rust and would only create problems with a part clean metal/part rust surface. So my thought is im better off leaving the rust in order to work with products that are made to work with rust. then blasting the outside to bare metal when the insides are all said and done.
I have a place that is ready and willing to do this for me about 3 hours away. Wasnt sure if it would be worth it if the chemistry/technology of some of the products nowadays is as good as some say to work WITH rust. If I DO have it dipped though it will eliminate the mess and labor of blasting the outside as well. HMMMN should i backtrack a little and just do it? What would you do? What would Jesus do? Btw dont ask me why i noticed this but you have the same birthday and are the same age as Hiluxln111 haha
The place I have in mind does not use electrolysis though they use chemicals. That is what made me think it might not get ALL of the rust and that I would be better leaving the rust to work with products designed for it. BUTTTT
if anyone can recommend a place in or around New Jersey that DOES use electrolysis and would have a tank big enough for my frame I would absolutely go this route. Anybody know a place.
The two places I came up with that are able to strip with CHEMICALS not electrolysis are MEC Chemicals in Nanty-Glo(I think that's how its spelt) PA and Chemstrip Refinishing LLC in Upper Marlboro MD if anyone is familiar/has had work done by them and can comment or are looking for places yourself.
Some pictures for your viewing pleasure. The rear round cross member was rusted through and I have since welded in a new one. I will post some more pictures. let me know if these are all uploaded properly. Or if you have any requests for different pics.
and the frame all in its lonesome....the square hole you see on the side towards the front has since been repaired and the rust to the left of and on top of it is surface rust on already repaired holes. The square patches of rust just behind the round rear cross member are just surface rust on freshly welded patches where the leaf spring bumpers rusted through
03-06-2020, 10:20 AM
