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Old 08-29-2006, 10:55 AM
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Trouble downshifting from 4th to 3rd

5spd manual tranny doesn't like to drop back down to third, escpecially trying to keep revs up climbing passes. I can tease or "force" in, but definetly harsh. Feels almost like missing the timing on the clutch during a normal shift. If vehicle slows (under 25 or so), tranny seems to drop down okay.

Any guesses as to the problem? Thinking something internal , but hoping maybe just a clutch adjustment problem. Like maybe the clutch isn't disengaging completely, keeps things spinning that shouldn't be spinning.

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Originally Posted by Elvota
5spd manual tranny doesn't like to drop back down to third, escpecially trying to keep revs up climbing passes. I can tease or "force" in, but definetly harsh. Feels almost like missing the timing on the clutch during a normal shift. If vehicle slows (under 25 or so), tranny seems to drop down okay.

Any guesses as to the problem? Thinking something internal , but hoping maybe just a clutch adjustment problem. Like maybe the clutch isn't disengaging completely, keeps things spinning that shouldn't be spinning.

Thanks
Hmm, if it was hard to shift into all of your gears, I would say clutch, but only one gear seems like it would be a synchro problem with third gear...
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There is a set of bushings on the base of the shifter that wear out after a while and cause difficult shifting. Try searching for transmission bushing or something like that.
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Originally Posted by the_supernerd
There is a set of bushings on the base of the shifter that wear out after a while and cause difficult shifting. Try searching for transmission bushing or something like that.
I'm pretty certain it's called the "shifter seat bushing" and it is an relatively & cheap (@$5) replacement. I'd recommend trying it before you start tearing into syncros. There is a really good write-up here on it:

http://4runners.org/articles/shift/

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Shifter seat bushing sounds right. I am really tired and I could not remember what it was called.
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Did you check the fluid?

I've also heard that the cheap bushing wears out too pretty often. That's definitely cheaper and easier to change than the tranny is...
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Ditto on the shifter seat bushing. This happened to my former Toy PU transmission.
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Thanks for the tips and links. I'll look at the shifter seat and double check the fluid level. I am also going to make sure my clutch is adjusted properly.

What oil does everyone run in this tranny? Synthetic work any better?
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What oil does everyone run in this tranny? Synthetic work any better?
Theoretically AMSOIL is the best (duh) but I run Valvoline 80W90 and haven't had any problems... maybe someone will jump in that has used Synthetic though.
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