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Old 09-28-2009, 12:49 PM
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This is very interesting. the thing thats hard for me to understand is if your gaining all this travel how are the CVs not binding? I have BJ spacers and apparently my T-bars are cranked a little from the previous owner and i had to shim the bump stops to limit droop or the CVs would bind.
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Originally Posted by Zeb8806
This is very interesting. the thing thats hard for me to understand is if your gaining all this travel how are the CVs not binding? I have BJ spacers and apparently my T-bars are cranked a little from the previous owner and i had to shim the bump stops to limit droop or the CVs would bind.
Since the long travel kits use the longer T-100 axles, the angles are about the same, but the wheel can travel farther up and down. The TC kits use modified Tundra axles to handle greater CV angles. The Blazeland kit uses standard T-100 axles, which results in a little less travel than a TC kit, but still substantially better than stock.
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lmao im drooling over the stance, i love it
Old 09-28-2009, 01:39 PM
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Well I think this is the real deal for those wanting to keep their ifs suspension as I do. The website looks great too.
Now how about a little video.

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:53 PM
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lmao that would be cool, vid of some woops or somthin, and a lil crawlin
Old 09-28-2009, 02:14 PM
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his kits probally more popular now thanks to this thread, almost 3,000 views? hopefully he'll get some sales from this!



p.s. the vid would be freakin sweet!
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Originally Posted by malteserunner
Since the long travel kits use the longer T-100 axles, the angles are about the same, but the wheel can travel farther up and down. The TC kits use modified Tundra axles to handle greater CV angles. The Blazeland kit uses standard T-100 axles, which results in a little less travel than a TC kit, but still substantially better than stock.
Actually TC uses T100 axles for the 86-95 trucks, only Tacoma's need the modified Tundra shafts

The increase in travel is from the wider stance, longer arm travels farther at the tip even though it swings the same arc.
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Looks good! lets see it in action

I may have a new route to go I like the sounds of this front kit with 63's in the rear!
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Originally Posted by ckblum
Actually TC uses T100 axles for the 86-95 trucks, only Tacoma's need the modified Tundra shafts

The increase in travel is from the wider stance, longer arm travels farther at the tip even though it swings the same arc.
Oops, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.

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Originally Posted by malteserunner
Oops, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.
You guys got it! The Blazeland concept is a simple and cost effective improvement to an awsome IFS vehicle. Adam, thanks for meeting me in Pismo and for taking an up close and personal look at the kit. I'm glad you, and all the other folks, got to see the Blazeland LT in action.
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Originally Posted by Zeb8806
This is very interesting. the thing thats hard for me to understand is if your gaining all this travel how are the CVs not binding? I have BJ spacers and apparently my T-bars are cranked a little from the previous owner and i had to shim the bump stops to limit droop or the CVs would bind.
What your discovering here is the importance of setting limits. In the design of the Blazeland LT, I calculated if I move the ball joint out 'x' inches and down 'y' inches, I can only go as far as the weakest link, the T-100 CVs. Remember, I wanted to keep 4WD and wanted something affordable. Anyway, the T-100 CVs are a given length plus or minus the "plunge" that it can move in and out. Also, the CVs have a maximum angle that can be achieved without binding. I assume that in the design of your bj spacers, the designer went through a similar process. I am not sure why you are needing to shim the droop stops because of binding on the stock CVs? This sounds like questions to who ever designed your bj spacers. Maybe the Downey slip yoke axel shafts we discussed earlyer in the forum would solve your problem? They offered more "plunge" and operated at greater angles. I have an old set in good condition, make me an offer. I think they sold for about $650 a pair.

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I run bj spacers without any problems! I did not adjust the torsion bars for additional lift though.
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but wait a minute

ya'll said that the t-100 suspension is the EXACT same as the pickup and 4runner suspension and that the t-100 frame is wider

well if the suspension is the same..then the axles should be the same length right?!? lol

i never really checked out a 4wd t-100 sooo my bad if i sound like an idiot!..hahah

now that i have a 2nd gen 4runner with a 4in bracket lift..

i'd be scared to add his LT kit on top of it..

its already REALLY FREAKIN TOP HEAVY
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the t-100 is wider, the axles are a few inches longer.
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well thats what i figured..but everybody kept saying the suspension is the same..therefore i thought maybe toyota just extended the long portion of steel axle housing whatever coming out of the side of the diff..idk what its called all the sudden
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Well the axles are the same but longer so.... lol who knows
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Originally Posted by Jay351
I run bj spacers without any problems! I did not adjust the torsion bars for additional lift though.
That may be so but the bj spacers are allowing additional droop. The easyest way to test for CV binding at full droop is to jack the front of your truck off the ground from the center of the front diff crossmember. With the hubs locked in 4wd and the transfer case in 2wd turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or to the right and spin the tires by hand. If the CVs are binding you will feel it as you spin. You will also see it as you look at the CV. Also, check for play in the plunge. It may seem backwards but at full droop the CVs are not lengthening but are shortening. The plunge shouldn't bottom out on itself, and the angle shouldn't be much greater than 'x' number of degrees. I think its 22 degrees if memory serves me correct.
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wait a second, if the t-100 a arms are the same, but wider, wouldnt it mount up to lets say a 4-runner and be long travel in a sort of way?
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I have no idea if the t-100arms mount the same or if they are even close to eachother.

I have tested and I have absolutly no binding in the cv's. I have beat on it pretty good, I treat it like it already has long travel
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Originally Posted by Jay351
I treat it like it already has long travel

shhhh, i remember the good times with my 81 2wd thinking it was a pre-runner, well in the end it was fun, but after the crash (non-related to stupidity) i miss the truck. would trade mt 4runner back for it.


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