solid axle question
#1
solid axle question
okay, so i know that the hot swap is a solid axle swap on a 2nd gen 4runner/ 3rd gen pickup using marlin/trailgear/etc...
but can you cut a little spending by placing the stock solid axle toyota springs and everything instead of buying a kit? i know that it probably wouldnt give much lift if any at all, but what about a budget wheeler who wants a few more options?
but can you cut a little spending by placing the stock solid axle toyota springs and everything instead of buying a kit? i know that it probably wouldnt give much lift if any at all, but what about a budget wheeler who wants a few more options?
#2
I believe the problem you run into is that you cannot install "high steer" without 3-4" lift as the linkage contacts the oil sump.
High steer is much tougher than stock the quirky "push-pull" steering in stock solid axle vehicles.
High steer is much tougher than stock the quirky "push-pull" steering in stock solid axle vehicles.
#3
You won't save money in the long run...as you would eventually realize the boneheadatude of your idea and then have to buy the rest of the kit at a much greater individual price.
Budget wheelers need to get bigger budgets. This is an expensive hobby and not for the financially challenged.
Thinking outside the box is great, but no sense in trying to reinvent the wheel. The "kits" are there for a reason - simplicity and cheaper.
Budget wheelers need to get bigger budgets. This is an expensive hobby and not for the financially challenged.
Thinking outside the box is great, but no sense in trying to reinvent the wheel. The "kits" are there for a reason - simplicity and cheaper.
#4
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The stock suspension on say an '85 does not flex any better than the IFS you cut off did, and the axle/steering are no stronger, so you really spent all the money and more importantly the time on .... nothing
A SAS is a major modification, and it needs to be done RIGHT, not on a budget. If you want to get the advantages of the swap (strength, flex), you need to go "whole hog" and do hi-steer, longfields, flexy suspension, lockers, gears, etc.
This is why I so often present the argument that people don't need a SAS. If you really NEED a SAS, you already know why and what will need to be done to meet your specific 'wheeling requirements. Otherwise, spend a fraction of the money on armor and locker(s) and get out and wheel your IFS. You'll be surprised where you can go.
A SAS is a major modification, and it needs to be done RIGHT, not on a budget. If you want to get the advantages of the swap (strength, flex), you need to go "whole hog" and do hi-steer, longfields, flexy suspension, lockers, gears, etc.
This is why I so often present the argument that people don't need a SAS. If you really NEED a SAS, you already know why and what will need to be done to meet your specific 'wheeling requirements. Otherwise, spend a fraction of the money on armor and locker(s) and get out and wheel your IFS. You'll be surprised where you can go.
Last edited by tc; 11-28-2008 at 05:34 AM.
#5
well, i was just thinking, my brother in law had an 85 with longfields and wagoneer springs in the front, and he went thru the rubicon just fine... well, he had shackles too... but his truck flexed enough to let him get thru rubicon with minimal damage...
i want to go with a Total Chaos Long Travel kit, but i was just thinking about the SAS thing and thought id bring it up...
i want to go with a Total Chaos Long Travel kit, but i was just thinking about the SAS thing and thought id bring it up...
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