New to the fourm :) oddly enough, I have a question.
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New to the fourm :) oddly enough, I have a question.
Firstly, Hello all. Glad to be here.
I recently got a nice 92' runner. A little background: before my nifty 4runner I had 72' FJ40 and also bought a nice 79' 40 in Alaska which I drove back to Detroit. But that's a whole nother' story. My Toyota knowledge is almost exclusively 40's.
My question is gonna get me slapped because I've read the gabillion posts on this already. I'm just a little "confused" so to speak and need some clarity on a few things.
The runner is my daily and I don't have much money to spend on this thing. I also don't do much in the way of serious off-road. So it comes to the springs question. ( I can hear y'all groaning out there)
My question is this: After reading loads of posts about Downey, OMU, Downey HD, 80 springs etc. As well as a lot of extra components that are affected by these. Like the different links and whatnot that need to be changed to keep the stock geometry. All I want is the cheapest possible solution to get my axle off the bumpstops and allow me to haul a small payload. Say, a small dredge and some equipment (maybe 500 lbs)
I do head into the mountains here in GA. and go down a few trails, but to be 100% honest, my old 2002 C-RV AWD handled all that like a champ. So that gives you an idea of the terrain.
Idealy I would like to keep the stock ride, feel and action, but with some springs that can actually handle the truck and a small payload with no adverse affects.
Thoughts? Again, with this economy, money is really an issue. I'm also hoping to find direct replacements.
Thanks in advance. Please be kind in the thrashing I'll get from another spring post.
D.
I recently got a nice 92' runner. A little background: before my nifty 4runner I had 72' FJ40 and also bought a nice 79' 40 in Alaska which I drove back to Detroit. But that's a whole nother' story. My Toyota knowledge is almost exclusively 40's.
My question is gonna get me slapped because I've read the gabillion posts on this already. I'm just a little "confused" so to speak and need some clarity on a few things.
The runner is my daily and I don't have much money to spend on this thing. I also don't do much in the way of serious off-road. So it comes to the springs question. ( I can hear y'all groaning out there)
My question is this: After reading loads of posts about Downey, OMU, Downey HD, 80 springs etc. As well as a lot of extra components that are affected by these. Like the different links and whatnot that need to be changed to keep the stock geometry. All I want is the cheapest possible solution to get my axle off the bumpstops and allow me to haul a small payload. Say, a small dredge and some equipment (maybe 500 lbs)
I do head into the mountains here in GA. and go down a few trails, but to be 100% honest, my old 2002 C-RV AWD handled all that like a champ. So that gives you an idea of the terrain.
Idealy I would like to keep the stock ride, feel and action, but with some springs that can actually handle the truck and a small payload with no adverse affects.
Thoughts? Again, with this economy, money is really an issue. I'm also hoping to find direct replacements.
Thanks in advance. Please be kind in the thrashing I'll get from another spring post.
D.
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Leaf springs wear out. Try a coiled upgrade.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ks-zuk-157035/
I did that on the 86 pickup and am doing it again on the 89 4runner. They never ever sag or wear out and offer a huge load capacity over stock.
Welcome to YT!!!
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ks-zuk-157035/
I did that on the 86 pickup and am doing it again on the 89 4runner. They never ever sag or wear out and offer a huge load capacity over stock.
Welcome to YT!!!
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You can get "leveling springs that will replace your stock ones and level the ride for around $90, I believe. I was pricing these out for my bro's '90 runner a few months ago.
Call your local 4x4 parts dealer and tell them what you want; Leveling springs for a stock 92 4Runner. They should know what you are looking for. Or call 4Wheel Parts, the will know what you are looking for. That's where I was quoted around $90 for replacement springs that will level the rear.
Good Luck
Call your local 4x4 parts dealer and tell them what you want; Leveling springs for a stock 92 4Runner. They should know what you are looking for. Or call 4Wheel Parts, the will know what you are looking for. That's where I was quoted around $90 for replacement springs that will level the rear.
Good Luck
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uhhhhhh its a second gen aint it? so its got coils in the rear right? only way to fix saggy coils is to get new ones? or barely used from a boneyard or go super mega hi-tech and get coil spring spacers from autozone, but that doesent fix anything just makes it look like its not sagging anymore
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honestly, replacement coils are gonna be just as bad... the coil spacers, while great at leveling will not allow you to carry any more payload than stock...
i STRONGLY suggest you get the Old Man Emu 901 Springs... they are a 2 inch lift spring that, while giving you a slight rake, can handle an extra 100 lbs per spring...
stockers handle 250lbs. per spring and these are 350lbs...
i pu them on my 2nd gen (90) runner and it is easily one of the best mods ive done yet... altho they are a stiffer ride than the stockers, its negligible in the difference... on the freeway they soak up the bumps and make it feel like your riding on air... plus i can now sit on the tailgate without my feet touching the ground...
they ride the nicest, IMHO, with about 50 or 100lbs of weight in the back and that gives it a nice "cushy" ride...
as for towing, i have not towed anything yet, but i imagine that it will come in handy with larger loads...
they are NOT the cheapest out there at 180 bucks a set, but they are a top notch product...
also, they need to be coupled with a nice soft shock... i run the monroe gas matics and its superb...
if you want pics, just PM me and ill send you some...
i STRONGLY suggest you get the Old Man Emu 901 Springs... they are a 2 inch lift spring that, while giving you a slight rake, can handle an extra 100 lbs per spring...
stockers handle 250lbs. per spring and these are 350lbs...
i pu them on my 2nd gen (90) runner and it is easily one of the best mods ive done yet... altho they are a stiffer ride than the stockers, its negligible in the difference... on the freeway they soak up the bumps and make it feel like your riding on air... plus i can now sit on the tailgate without my feet touching the ground...
they ride the nicest, IMHO, with about 50 or 100lbs of weight in the back and that gives it a nice "cushy" ride...
as for towing, i have not towed anything yet, but i imagine that it will come in handy with larger loads...
they are NOT the cheapest out there at 180 bucks a set, but they are a top notch product...
also, they need to be coupled with a nice soft shock... i run the monroe gas matics and its superb...
if you want pics, just PM me and ill send you some...
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Thanks again for the replys.
Here's a funny story for y'all. I called a local autozone just to see if they could order different coils. The lady on the phone actually said to me "you mean those things that look like pig tails?" *sigh*
I'll probably just save up and get the OME springs and shocks.
Anywho, here she is.
Here's a funny story for y'all. I called a local autozone just to see if they could order different coils. The lady on the phone actually said to me "you mean those things that look like pig tails?" *sigh*
I'll probably just save up and get the OME springs and shocks.
Anywho, here she is.
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nice looking runner!!
if do fj 80 coils and bj spacers up front to just level it out..
but my stock hilux surf has good stock springs with no sag and even an electric hard or soft mode.. i really like them
if do fj 80 coils and bj spacers up front to just level it out..
but my stock hilux surf has good stock springs with no sag and even an electric hard or soft mode.. i really like them
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I'm starting to wonder if the OME rear is the best choice. it's $400 for the rear with their matched shocks and another almost $200 for the front shocks. It seems like I can find a whole lift kit for not much more than that.
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yup def search search search you wont spend twice or too much..
do you know you can also get air bags that level out the rear for load carrying and towing..
and they are cheap...
do you know you can also get air bags that level out the rear for load carrying and towing..
and they are cheap...
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BigT- I think I saw some of those called coil-rite air springs. I wasn't sure if they were any good or not.
So you're thinking 80 springs and BJ spacers, eh? Do the spacers have any adverse long term effects? Cause if there aren't any issues with them, then that would by far be the cheapest route.
Also, if you don't mind me asking, how much lift do the 80's give you and what size spacers would I need?
So you're thinking 80 springs and BJ spacers, eh? Do the spacers have any adverse long term effects? Cause if there aren't any issues with them, then that would by far be the cheapest route.
Also, if you don't mind me asking, how much lift do the 80's give you and what size spacers would I need?
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i think the only adverse affect of the BJ spacers was its hard to get an alignment done, (hard to adjust camber that far) but other than that, its all i can think of
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My brother's 90 had OME springs in the back along with a slight torsion bar crank. He did not change the shocks because his shocks were fairly fresh.
It works most excellently. And allows you to run a slightly larger tire as well.
It works most excellently. And allows you to run a slightly larger tire as well.