hey everybody i just put my 31's on today





and i painted my wipers : )


okay so i really wanted to get a three inch lift and i found one for around 70 bucks and i just wanted to know how involved it is by doing it myself.. and how i can go about lifting up the body?

the only problem is that the spots where the blocks would go are really rusted and i don't know if i can get the screws loose



thanks guys !! your replys would be appreciated

 

A body lift? What for? Three inches is an awful lot. Were you going to replace the body mount bushings anyway?

 

If you are going to install a 3" body lift do yourself a few favors.

1. Get new body mount bushings, looks like yours are toast
2. get a good penetrent lube like liquid wrench or pb blaster
3. soak all bolts at least 2-3 times over the course of a week
4. make sure you can get somone to help you out
5. expect to not have the use of your truck for around 1-2 days
6. an impact gun is a HUGE time saver

 

well maybe not a body lift but i want to bring up the rear end becuase its sagging.

 

if budget is not a huge issue I would look for a small suspension lift... IMO

 

Oh! Well, in that case...search "saggy rearend". There's lots of solutions....and even more opinions...for that.

I like this one:
http://www.gearinstalls.com/dc.htm
Cheap and effective.

And btw, kudo's on the tire change.

 

A body lift won't help rear sag.

You need new rear leafs!
You could also temporarily fix the problem with longer shackles and/or a helper spring or add-a-leaf.

Please don't body lift it

 

picture of the rusty bolts

yeah, those look pretty shot. be extremely careful removing them. if they survive being taken out, spray paint them silver and sell them in san diego, close to the border to TJ. haha.

 

thanks guys! i dont think im going to lift it becuase of your advice..im gonna check out that link

now i just have to get my rear brake line replaced!

 

could you give me some more info on the rear leafs?

 

Add-a-leaf cheap. Lift rear good, last long time. Plus, give ~500lbs extra load carrying ability to your stock springs. Stiff ride unloaded.

Rear leafs(replacement 3-4 leaf spring pack), expensive. Won't give you added weight carrying capacity. Not likely to last as long because most are the same rate as stock. They would ride approx. like stock springs, softer than add-a-leafs considerably.

 

Because why ?




Fred

 

Spring rate has no bearing on spring life, all other things equal.




Fred

 

Interesting theory.

Stiffer springs are thicker, coils/leafs/torsion bars. Thusly can endure more punishment buy design than thinner springs under identical conditions. Pretty sure on that. If not clear me up.

 

"Punishment" has no real bearing on spring life either, as long as the springs stay within their working range.
Higher spring rates (coils/leafs/bars whatever) are harder to flex (which is why a softer spring rate is better for off road use, softer and harder spring rates being relative terms).
Since the higher spring rate (in this case the rears) are harder to flex, the chances are that they're less likely to get flexed beyond their limits when the elasticity of the spring fails.
That's the biggest cause of "sag", spring failure caused by either over compressing or over stretching the spring.
Can we say "adjust your bumpstops correctly"




Fred

 

Don't do the coil springs it will work,BUT I did it to my 4runner and it makes the ride very bouncy and it sucks driving on the highway and any bumpy road first bump is not too bad but if you have a bunch of bumps the truck will start to bounce all over the place.
looking back I wish I had not been so cheap and had got either new leafs or a add a leaf instead or had done the Chevy leaf swap.

 

you can get blocks for like 70.00$$ and there like super simple to put on

 

get like 2 inch larger rear shackles if you wanna go cheap, that will also improve your flex a bit. every inch larger your shackles are you get a half inch of lift. my 31's i put on yesterday fit fine stock but if you wanna level out the rear i think shackles are a good way to go for cheap. otherwise like an add-a-leaf or some lift blocks. hey your truck says yota on the front just like mine!

 

O.k., throw out "endure more punishment". Change to "resist flexing beyond their limits better".

Then it reads,

Safe to say?

By "stiffer" I mean higher load rate and/or spring rate. Or, in layman's terms, "less easier flexed".

 

You'll find some people on this forum who like body lifts, you'll find some people who are indifferent, and you'll find some 100% anti-body-lift people. I happen to be the latter, I think they look absolutely tacky and hate seeing a perfectly good Toyota get a body lift installed.