How much our tranny's weigh?
09-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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175 lbs of awkward weight with an even weirder CG
I used ratchet straps on the frame rails to to hold it up there. That worked well.
Forewarning you might have problems using the picker since your truck is so tall. PRobably need to hoist it up, put straps on the rails and under the tranny to hold it while you lower thepicker and shorten the strap (probably wont be able to get it up off the ground and into position without hitting your cab ceiling)
The big green jack in my previous post goes about 3ft in the air, hehe things a beast.. I used the picker to manuever the engine (makes lining up the input shaft on the tranny soooooooooooo much easier)
I used ratchet straps on the frame rails to to hold it up there. That worked well.
Forewarning you might have problems using the picker since your truck is so tall. PRobably need to hoist it up, put straps on the rails and under the tranny to hold it while you lower thepicker and shorten the strap (probably wont be able to get it up off the ground and into position without hitting your cab ceiling)
The big green jack in my previous post goes about 3ft in the air, hehe things a beast.. I used the picker to manuever the engine (makes lining up the input shaft on the tranny soooooooooooo much easier)
09-04-2008, 09:26 AM
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HEy CLint, Do you have grab handles?
If so, those grab handles can support a 250-300 lb. person pulling themselves up into the truck. Each one can...actually...
Here is how I did mine SAFELY by myself with verrrrrry little work (purely because Im lazy)
09-04-2008, 11:47 AM
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So yeah, I'll be buying a tranny or tcase from you in all probability...
Yeah, I'll probably do it that way.
09-04-2008, 12:14 PM
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I used to go there more often. I have a friend who lives past Borgfield right on 281 so you may see me on a weekend out there. I live on Lockhill Selma a mile from Northstar and I get all around too. Just not always in my truck, in fact she's out of commission until I get an alignment and put on my front bumper again. So if a 94 black Camry honks at you it's me
09-04-2008, 12:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm off Evans and 281.
Haha, well I'll keep an eye out. But yeah, I drive my dodge most of the time, so if you see this truck driving, honk the horn or get my attention some way or another.
Haha, well I'll keep an eye out. But yeah, I drive my dodge most of the time, so if you see this truck driving, honk the horn or get my attention some way or another.
09-04-2008, 02:46 PM
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Ok, well I'm a little stumped. Anyone have a take on this?
Driving the truck on the road in 2hi or 4hi, it would make the rattling noise (no steering wheel shake, very very very little shifter shake) once I got over 45mph. The noise isn't too bad when I'm accelerating or decelerating in gear (compression braking), but if it's coasting in gear it makes the noise. Or if you coast with the tranny in neutral at 45mph or lower, it sounds like the 9th circle of hell has opened up under the truck and it's making racket for all it's worth. There is also some driveline vibration when accelerating all through 1st and 2nd gear.
I jacked up my rear axle with the tires still on. Ran the truck in 2hi 1st-5th gear. The horrible knocking bearing gone bad metallic scraping sound started around 45mph. Pretty much same sound as when driving it on the highway.
Putting the tcase in neutral and running it through the gears makes no noise.
Unhooking the drive shafts and going through the gears in 2hi and 4hi, the truck still makes no noise.
The ujoints are perfect, the flanges have no play, and the rear driveshaft looks straight as an arrow and it looks like all the weights are there.
Pulling out the rear third, I can't see anything wrong (other than what looks like a little rust on my brand new 529s. which is kind of concerning). Here's some pictures:
So does all that rule out anything rear axle or gear related? Should I start pulling out tranny and tcase? Should I go get a couple cases of beer?
Driving the truck on the road in 2hi or 4hi, it would make the rattling noise (no steering wheel shake, very very very little shifter shake) once I got over 45mph. The noise isn't too bad when I'm accelerating or decelerating in gear (compression braking), but if it's coasting in gear it makes the noise. Or if you coast with the tranny in neutral at 45mph or lower, it sounds like the 9th circle of hell has opened up under the truck and it's making racket for all it's worth. There is also some driveline vibration when accelerating all through 1st and 2nd gear.
I jacked up my rear axle with the tires still on. Ran the truck in 2hi 1st-5th gear. The horrible knocking bearing gone bad metallic scraping sound started around 45mph. Pretty much same sound as when driving it on the highway.
Putting the tcase in neutral and running it through the gears makes no noise.
Unhooking the drive shafts and going through the gears in 2hi and 4hi, the truck still makes no noise.
The ujoints are perfect, the flanges have no play, and the rear driveshaft looks straight as an arrow and it looks like all the weights are there.
Pulling out the rear third, I can't see anything wrong (other than what looks like a little rust on my brand new 529s. which is kind of concerning). Here's some pictures:
So does all that rule out anything rear axle or gear related? Should I start pulling out tranny and tcase? Should I go get a couple cases of beer?
09-04-2008, 04:38 PM
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Well I've got the ratchet strap ran across the roof. Little worried about it hitting on my steering wheel when I put some weight on it. How do you take the steering wheel off? No airbag 
And it's been a while since I've dropped a tranny. Whats there, 8 tranny to block bolts (with those two hard as hell ones at the top), 8 cross member bolts, 1 for the starter, 2 for the slave, tcase speedo cable, 4wd light, reverse light, and that's it right?
And it's been a while since I've dropped a tranny. Whats there, 8 tranny to block bolts (with those two hard as hell ones at the top), 8 cross member bolts, 1 for the starter, 2 for the slave, tcase speedo cable, 4wd light, reverse light, and that's it right?
09-04-2008, 07:00 PM
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That'll work.(ATV jack).
id be more worried about the straps slipping off the roof onto the windshield. rather than the stock steering wheel.... get a GT Grant steering, much more confortable...
id be more worried about the straps slipping off the roof onto the windshield. rather than the stock steering wheel.... get a GT Grant steering, much more confortable...
09-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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Quick thought. If it makes noise with rear end jacked up and tires on, but it won't make the noise with the tires off, that pretty much rules out fubar'ed ujoints gears and motor/tranny mounts right? Seeing as how it seems that it requires a load to be on whatever's making the noise.
That sound about right, or am I loosing it?
Would the throw-out or input/output shaft gone kaput cause a noise with a load but not without a load? Grr....
That sound about right, or am I loosing it?
Would the throw-out or input/output shaft gone kaput cause a noise with a load but not without a load? Grr....
09-04-2008, 11:45 PM
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What I really need is my own welder, plasma cutter or oxy-acetylene torch, and pipe bender. That way I don't have to try and make it to my friends shop whenever I'm feeling creative
09-05-2008, 06:40 AM
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How odd.. I was _just_ in this same position last night. My 85 is way too tall even if I had a tranny jack, my regular floor jack wouldn't reach. I took the wheels off, sat the (front and rear) axles on the smallest 2-ton jack stands and still not short enough.
I ended up using a cherry picker thru the cab with ratchet straps around the tranny. I wasn't smart enough to pull the t-case first, so I had problems trying to swing the whole thing down over the x-member, so I ended up unbolting the x-member and dropping the whole thing to the ground. Worked like a champ.
I attempted using the floor jack with a 6x6 stud block on top and that worked ok, but it was still difficult to move the tranny back from the engine. The manuverability just sucked with the floor jack/block method. Once I gave up and switched over to the cherry picker, I was done in short order.
I ended up using a cherry picker thru the cab with ratchet straps around the tranny. I wasn't smart enough to pull the t-case first, so I had problems trying to swing the whole thing down over the x-member, so I ended up unbolting the x-member and dropping the whole thing to the ground. Worked like a champ.
I attempted using the floor jack with a 6x6 stud block on top and that worked ok, but it was still difficult to move the tranny back from the engine. The manuverability just sucked with the floor jack/block method. Once I gave up and switched over to the cherry picker, I was done in short order.
09-05-2008, 03:18 PM
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Ok, got the x-member off (ratchet strap holding it through the cab working great), all the tranny to block bolts off (those top two almost moved me to breaking out the sawsall... seriously...), and the slave off.
About to pull it out. BUT. I can't find the stupid alternator bolts.... Anyone got a pic? It's a real stupid problem to have, but with my right wrist in a cast, it's real hard to feel around up there. And my left hand just aint bend the way I need it to lol.
About to pull it out. BUT. I can't find the stupid alternator bolts.... Anyone got a pic? It's a real stupid problem to have, but with my right wrist in a cast, it's real hard to feel around up there. And my left hand just aint bend the way I need it to lol.
09-05-2008, 07:07 PM
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Hmm... Found this picture, but I still can't feel those bolts. Anyone know if the bolt that holds the slave hardline to the tranny/block is also one of the bolts that hold the starter in?
Cause that would make sense why I can't feel that bolt lol. And as far as the other one goes, maybe easier to get to it from the top? Grr, bout to cut off this dog gone cast...
Cause that would make sense why I can't feel that bolt lol. And as far as the other one goes, maybe easier to get to it from the top? Grr, bout to cut off this dog gone cast...
