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Old 11-26-2008, 08:53 AM
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Get some wrenches, I'll guide you step by step. I won't even charge ya $350

Its really very simple to do, it doesn't take much "knowledge".

Here is all the actual knowledge it takes: Righty Tighty Lefty Loosy

Even so, don't take it to a dealer. Take it to an independent shop that wont rape you just to look at the diff and say "yup, its broken"
Old 11-26-2008, 08:57 AM
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you need a 10,12,14,17,19mm socket and boxwrench to fix about 1/2 of everything on these trucks. pulling a rear 3rd is REAL easy....

lift truck up to tires are just off the ground. put jackstand under axle.
drain the diff
disconnect break hard lines from drum. (10mm box)
disconnect ebrake.
remove the driveshaft from the 3rd. 4, 14mm nuts and bolts. (easiest done with 2 14 box wrenches)
remove the 4nuts attaching the drums to the (14mm) on each side
grab the tire and pull out, you will pull the tire, drum and axleshaft out. it only needs to come out 3-4 inches.
repeat on the other side.
remove the 12, 12mm nuts holding the 3rd.
pull the 3rd out.


to install put some copper ultra RTV on the 3rd slap it back in, and do the opposite of what you did to take it out.

its goign to be WAY cheaper to take in just the 3rd to get fixed than having toyota do it all....

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ok, so you know it's in the rear since the driveshaft is spinning. you can put it in 4wd and drive it home now and cut your losses. when you get that sucker home, jack up the back of the truck by putting the jack under the rear pumpkin, then put jack stands on each side under the axle.

you can certainly open up the pumpkin and swap some used parts in. it is within your capability and you have access to factory svc. manual here, as well as good advice live online. you can do it! :-)

Now I see Tofer already has step by steps up there for ya, you can do it man!

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Exactly..but they are 14mm nuts, and copper RTV is no the best choice. I would stick to "The Right Stuff" made by permatex, or factory toyota FIPG.

Also, i would take the tires off. Resetting those axles with the rims and tires on is a MAJOR pITA.
Old 11-26-2008, 09:16 AM
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your right they are 14mm. and i forgot you need to take the driveshaft off (4 14mm bolts)

i've always left the tires on, its not that hard to reset, especially if you have someone else there, but i've done it by myself as well. but taking the tires off isnt that hard and would make it easier to put back on if its your first time.
Old 11-26-2008, 10:42 AM
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ahh i dunno guys i would feel comfortable if someone walked me through in person but i dont trust myself doing it "unsupervised" i just dont want to mess anything up
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what are you going to mess up? its already broken lol. just do your best and dont be affraid to ask questions. you will forever be stuck in a loop of paying retarded costs to have someone else fix something you could easily do yourself if you just make the attempt to learn how yourself. the first time i pulled a motor apart i did it on my own because i couldnt afford to let someone else do it. now i wont let anyone else touch my things unless its a friend and they are helping me do it.

im tellin you man. if you do it yourself... when you get it all back together and you put that first mile on it, you will get a feeling inside that will make you glad you did it and make you want to never go back to a shop again.
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ahh i dunno guys i would feel comfortable if someone walked me through in person but i dont trust myself doing it "unsupervised" i just dont want to mess anything up
Buy me a plane ticket to S.C. I bet its cheaper than the $350 the dealer wants to do it. Feed me some Pizza and beer, and I'll do the silly thing.

Besides, i have family in York....that would be a good time to visit them!

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Old 11-26-2008, 12:08 PM
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Let 'Cougar walk/talk ya thru it. He knows what he's talkin 'bout, and won't leave anything out. ......
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When i first started working on my truck i will admit, i was scared. But just relax and do one thing at a time, mark your bolts and put em in bags.

There are alot of people on here that will help you, as mentioned above. It might take you a while to do but I wouldnt give someone that much money just to look at it.

Get your truck back, get all your tools and might wanna print out the steps just for grins.

When you finish working on your truck, and everything is back together, you will feel amazing.

You can do it!
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
Buy me a plane ticket to S.C. I bet its cheaper than the $350 the dealer wants to do it. Feed me some Pizza and beer, and I'll do the silly thing.

Besides, i have family in York....that would be a good time to visit them!
i'm down for a S.C. road trip.... assuming gas is paid for
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Lets go!
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That would be a VERY long trip lol.
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Yea, my sister just came up here from Kansas and it took her 5 days or so. I don't think my work would appreciate that, so i would have to fly lol
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if bigt can change diffs...5 times this year.. you can too.. just need a jack and stands and maybe a flare wrench 10/11mm for your brakelines.. you have to undo them unless you have really long ones like on my trail rig you can just slid the axles out with the brakes still attached.....

just take 4 nuts off drive shaft.. then 4 bolts each side of axle and like 10 around the diff.. pull the axles and the diff will come right out...

get a junkyard one for under 100 bucks BIGATY BAM!
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
Buy me a plane ticket to S.C. I bet its cheaper than the $350 the dealer wants to do it. Feed me some Pizza and beer, and I'll do the silly thing.

Besides, i have family in York....that would be a good time to visit them!
hey, that offer stand for me when im ready to get my engine rebuilt? LOL
to the OP: do it yourself and learn and save money.
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Yea, my sister just came up here from Kansas and it took her 5 days or so. I don't think my work would appreciate that, so i would have to fly lol
i drove from tacoma wa to newport vermont in 94 hours by myself in my jetta with a cat. i left on teusday at 7pm and go there at 6pm on friday
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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad
hey, that offer stand for me when im ready to get my engine rebuilt? LOL
to the OP: do it yourself and learn and save money.
Sure, why not. Fly me down for the weekend, feed me, beer me, and fly me back! I am cheaper than any mechanic!
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you could probably swap out the whole rear end with a junkyard unit for less than they will charge you just to take your current rear end apart. and pay the neighbor or a freind a 12 pack of beer to change it out for you



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