front axle locker question
10-13-2009, 06:20 PM
#43
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i'm interested in this front locker, with one hub locked scenario.
what happens when in 2wd and 4wd? will the front axles turn with the locked hub in 2wd without a problem at the t-case or the other hub?
will there be 3wd once you shift to 4wd, again with no issue at the unlocked hub?
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what happens when in 2wd and 4wd? will the front axles turn with the locked hub in 2wd without a problem at the t-case or the other hub?
will there be 3wd once you shift to 4wd, again with no issue at the unlocked hub?
will batman and robin escape this fr..oh sorry.
for the answers to these questions and more, tune in tomorrow, same bat time...
10-13-2009, 06:26 PM
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i'm interested in this front locker, with one hub locked scenario.
what happens when in 2wd and 4wd? will the front axles turn with the locked hub in 2wd without a problem at the t-case or the other hub?
will there be 3wd once you shift to 4wd, again with no issue at the unlocked hub?
will batman and robin escape this fr..oh sorry.
for the answers to these questions and more, tune in tomorrow, same bat time...
what happens when in 2wd and 4wd? will the front axles turn with the locked hub in 2wd without a problem at the t-case or the other hub?
will there be 3wd once you shift to 4wd, again with no issue at the unlocked hub?
will batman and robin escape this fr..oh sorry.
for the answers to these questions and more, tune in tomorrow, same bat time...
10-13-2009, 07:18 PM
#45
This is what I know. Here where I live, mostly mud, and no rocks, an aussie up front works fine. Now it does cause some very stiff steering when trying to steer in tight areas. Sorry I have no rock crawling to compare to, but Obama may help us with that. When I move to Colorado, I will have an ARB in the front.
10-14-2009, 09:04 PM
#46
A.D.D is vaccum actuated. You would need a vaccum valve to control it or tap into the ADD relay. The vaccum merely switches sides to engage or disengage the ADD. The electrical wire on the ADD diff is merely a switch to light up your 4WD light in your dash.
I think I've just given myself an idea. 2LO with ADD.
I think I've just given myself an idea. 2LO with ADD.
10-14-2009, 09:18 PM
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Well, with one hub locked in the front, it's similar to an open diff in the sense that power only goes to one wheel. The other wheel is free to turn.
Well, if you're in 2WD with one hub locked the driveline is still going to turn, but you won't get crazy bindup because the driveline is free to turn, and one wheel is free to turn.
Since the hub that is unlocked should have no engagement with the CV/Axle, then you should theoretically be able to keep your turning radius. There should be no interference with the unlocked hub once switched into 4WD.
Now, for the front locker issue where you can't turn. Lets use the example of both axles locked on sand.
The truck won't want to turn when fully locked, this is because the wheels all want to go the same speed, leaving no room for any kind of turn at all.
If you're on sand with one hub unlocked, then the hub that is locked will get power from the engine..
This will result in the ability to turn, because one wheel can speed up or slow down independently of the other. If you had the pass. side hub locked, then turning left would be a breeze. However, turning right might raise a few problems. One problem being that the inner wheel will want to go the same speed as the outer wheel on the rear axle. I don't have a locker, so i can't come to a conclusion.
I'm assuming it will be able to turn, but it'll be a little bit less of a turning radius than the unlocked side. The tire will try and power it's way through the corner, and for all i know it might not even work.
But, if one of you locked up guys happens to go to the beach, next time try the 1 hub unlocked thing
Well, if you're in 2WD with one hub locked the driveline is still going to turn, but you won't get crazy bindup because the driveline is free to turn, and one wheel is free to turn.
Since the hub that is unlocked should have no engagement with the CV/Axle, then you should theoretically be able to keep your turning radius. There should be no interference with the unlocked hub once switched into 4WD.
Now, for the front locker issue where you can't turn. Lets use the example of both axles locked on sand.
The truck won't want to turn when fully locked, this is because the wheels all want to go the same speed, leaving no room for any kind of turn at all.
If you're on sand with one hub unlocked, then the hub that is locked will get power from the engine..
This will result in the ability to turn, because one wheel can speed up or slow down independently of the other. If you had the pass. side hub locked, then turning left would be a breeze. However, turning right might raise a few problems. One problem being that the inner wheel will want to go the same speed as the outer wheel on the rear axle. I don't have a locker, so i can't come to a conclusion.
I'm assuming it will be able to turn, but it'll be a little bit less of a turning radius than the unlocked side. The tire will try and power it's way through the corner, and for all i know it might not even work.
But, if one of you locked up guys happens to go to the beach, next time try the 1 hub unlocked thing
10-14-2009, 09:23 PM
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after reading this thread i decided to try driving my 89 that has lock rights front and rear in 4hi on the wet roads... OMG driving it is SOO hard its as if it doesnt have power steering. its crazy. i am a little concerned about it in the snow this winter... seattle doesnt get THAT much snow, maybe about a week worth, but i want to be able to go snowboarding etc.
10-15-2009, 01:03 AM
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A.D.D is vaccum actuated. You would need a vaccum valve to control it or tap into the ADD relay. The vaccum merely switches sides to engage or disengage the ADD. The electrical wire on the ADD diff is merely a switch to light up your 4WD light in your dash.
I think I've just given myself an idea. 2LO with ADD.
I think I've just given myself an idea. 2LO with ADD.
10-15-2009, 01:10 AM
#54
I know that last spring when my rear drive shaft was my passenger for a few miles:
my aussie locked front end was a lot of fun on the dry pavement...will have to try the one locked hub thing like Tofer is gonna do just to see if the theory works or not...
my aussie locked front end was a lot of fun on the dry pavement...will have to try the one locked hub thing like Tofer is gonna do just to see if the theory works or not...
10-15-2009, 07:58 AM
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Drove to work this morning in 4hi and one hub locked.... It wasn't much easier to drive. While turning was easier the truck would pull hard to right under power but would pul hard to the left under coasting. This was with the driver side locked. Idk what I am going to... Wait till I can find an open carrier and swap it out I guess this is on a daily driver / non wheelin rig.
10-15-2009, 10:35 AM
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Tofer, thanks for the info.
i can't see 2WD being an issue for driving up a mountain hill though.
I drove all the way up the Mt. Spokane hill last year in 2WD with an open carrier..
2WD with a rear locker is better than most trucks with 4WD and two open diffs.
i can't see 2WD being an issue for driving up a mountain hill though.
I drove all the way up the Mt. Spokane hill last year in 2WD with an open carrier..
2WD with a rear locker is better than most trucks with 4WD and two open diffs.
10-15-2009, 11:10 AM
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