runnerfreak88

Hmmm that is odd though must be one takes the skinny jet and the other take the fat one not every one has caught onto that though it seems

iamsuperbleeder

the DGEV is the model that comes with the electric choke if I'm not mistaken, correct?

at least that's what mine was, and it had an electric choke

I found the complete repair manual for mine the other day too, lol, during the move. I haven't had that truck in 4 years and I managed to hang onto the manual some how

JonnyBoy

I just tinkered with my Weber today, and as far as I know it's a DGEV(electric choke and a 32/36, but I bought it second hand from a buddy) and the primary idle is fatter than the secondary idle jet. In my tinkering I replaced my idle solenoid deal cause I never hooked it up(yes, I had to do some strange stuff to get it to idle with the solenoid there but not hooked up), and the new screw style jet holder held the fat primary idle jets just as well as the solenoid did. I received all my jets and tuning stuff from LCE, though the jet kit I bought first came in a Redline case.



Notice the different primary/secondary idle jets


Now I dunno how this helps to know if yours is real or not, but I'm fairly certain my buddy got mine from webercarbsdirect too. LCE does know their stuff I'm pretty sure.
Post a pic of yours side by side if you could, might clarify whether there's a difference between the choke versions.

runnerfreak88

ya johny my primary is the same as my secondary which is the same as the secondary in your picture i would take it out and get a picture but its literally 1 degree outside but thats the thing is i know its suppose to be like that because i have a dgv manual choke and no solenoids and after i have read around other places thats right but lc wants to try to tell me its fake they all take the fat ones but from everything i have seen dgv with no solenoids take skinny idle jets http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...p?Product=1587 is a reference to it and mine is a weber direct carb also all the break down diagrams of my carb show me the primary and secondary use the same jets

runnerfreak88

heres a link for the break down http://www.mazdatruckin.com/B2200/WeberDiagram.html it seems to me anything with the solenoid from the factory uses the larger jet?

JonnyBoy

No problem, I understand cold. It took forever for my truck to warm up enough to tune today.
Interesting also is the manual choke spec sheets seem to indicate they have a smaller secondary main jet than the electric choke models. I guess maybe LCE doesn't have experience with the manual choke models, they only sell electrics as far as I can tell.

runnerfreak88

ya iv had a few stiff drinks so im feelin frisky lol ill go grab a few pics but i only have my phone. ya tell me about taking forever to warm up let my truck run for about 20 or 30 mins today at work and the needle was only a quarter of the way up lol. and best off all yesterday the cold cracked my windshield lol but meh guess it would be soon or later it is the original windshield so im sure it has seen far to much expansion and contraction

runnerfreak88

ya i was almost wondering the same johny about them only selling electric choke models cant seem to get the upload thing to work pictures are to big so ill give links

this one is the primary idle jet on the left and the secondary on the right

http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture004.jpg

this one is the primary and the primaries from lc

http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture005.jpg

and these two are carb marking pictures

http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture001.jpg

http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture002.jpg

xxxtreme22r

This photo confirms what I had said notice 701 DGV4 which is for the DGEV/DGAV and not the DGV which would take the 701 DFV kit. Looks like I don't have to go looking for the jet part numbers.

runnerfreak88

Hmmmm is there a dgv5a kit? Because I seem to remember that in the base of the carb

xxxtreme22r

DGV 4 means 4 cyl, DGV 6 means 6 cyl, other than that the numbers mean nothing. your jet kit would be the 701 DFV unless you needed other jet sizes that might not be in the kit.

DFV and DGV (manual choke) share the same jets.

DGEV = electric choke
DGAV = water choke
DGV = manual choke

runnerfreak88

oh ok i see well thnx here is the really strange part though some dgv take the fat jets too go figure lol keep seeing it at other web sites that sell jets. lol maybe they just like making it confusing lol

http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/s...nt=Picture.png

xxxtreme22r

alot of places are calling that DGEV a DGV which is not accurate I don't think, this is where you really need the actual jet numbers to be safe. unfortunately they are not on the jets just the size I believe. Good thing this was brought up though, but I doubt I woulda had a problem since mine is the DGEV.

runnerfreak88

lol oh that would make sense then. ya your right no part # on jets just sizes. hm wonder how many people have ran ito that problem and places seem to use the same break down sheet for the dgv as they do the dgev so they all show small jets ive noticed

xxxtreme22r

those two I posted shows both have the same jets too, the smaller ones. but one is clearly the manual choke.

runnerfreak88

oh sorry didnt notive the chopkes just saw the jets hmm thats odd lol oh well mystery solved anyways and an off subject moment

While the 32/36 progressive Carburetor will improve your fuel economy on a stock motor over the OEM Carburetor. The 38 Synchronous Carburetor will not get less fuel economy than the OEM Carburetor.

lol i always hear people saying they get such bad mileage with with a 38 maybe its just cuase it has more power and you seems to hit the gas harder? lol

xxxtreme22r

or they do more city driving than highway. I would think highway would be better with the 38 where city would be better with the 32/36. So the avg almost stays the same. if that makes sense.

That also comes down to have they tuned and re-jetted the 38 or 32/36 correctly as well. Most knuckleheads will slap it on and go.

Mine's not perfect, but at least it's tuned properly to lean best for the jet(s) is have in it right now. 2 1/2-3 turns so I think I need to bump up one size on the primary idle jet.

runnerfreak88

ya thats what it is i bet slap and go because i always read about how people are disappointed with there 38 getting 10 to 12 mpg. hear ya on the idle jet mine is almost maxed in so i need a size or 2 smaller. what size main idle do you have mine is a 60

xxxtreme22r

whatever mine shipped with, I made the mistake, I never looked at em before I put it on the truck. Gonna have to soon, need to pick me up another idle solenoid soon gonna get at least that one size up jet with it, probably next week.

Not sure on how to tune for or check the other 3 jets. but weber says 80% of the full flow is due to the primary (main) idle jet so that should be good enough. I might eventually have to put an electric pump on this as well, the stock one is keeping the 3.5psi I have it set for fine, but not really sure if the flowrate is where it needs to be to keep the float accurate at higher throttles. Not gonna do that till I see what this bigger jet does.

runnerfreak88

oh brrrr went out to warm the truck up thing didnt want to start lol hit negatives last night and its 13 out right now even with the choke it must be idling at 400 to 500 rpm