Engine turns over once before starting?
#1
Engine turns over once or twice before starting?
Good day one an all. I'm having an issue, hoping someone can guide me. I am noticing when I start the
truck for the first time in the day or when Cold, the engine turns over once maybe twice before starting. After running it, turning it off an starting it again, it starts automatically. If it's warm, it starts right up. Can someone tell why is that.
truck for the first time in the day or when Cold, the engine turns over once maybe twice before starting. After running it, turning it off an starting it again, it starts automatically. If it's warm, it starts right up. Can someone tell why is that.
Last edited by Diego toyota; 09-15-2016 at 01:03 PM. Reason: Needed editing
#2
Perfectly normal for the engine to crank a few extra revs, before starting cold.
Cold engines want richer fuel mixtures and it takes a second for the extra fuel that is supplied to the plenum by the cold-start injector to reach the cylinders.
The warmer the engine is, the easier it is for the air/fuel mixture to be ignited, as well.
Everything is likely Ok, unless you have very prolonged cranking before cold start-up. Does'nt sound like you do.
Cold engines want richer fuel mixtures and it takes a second for the extra fuel that is supplied to the plenum by the cold-start injector to reach the cylinders.
The warmer the engine is, the easier it is for the air/fuel mixture to be ignited, as well.
Everything is likely Ok, unless you have very prolonged cranking before cold start-up. Does'nt sound like you do.
#3
Perfectly normal for the engine to crank a few extra revs, before starting cold.
Cold engines want richer fuel mixtures and it takes a second for the extra fuel that is supplied to the plenum by the cold-start injector to reach the cylinders.
The warmer the engine is, the easier it is for the air/fuel mixture to be ignited, as well.
Everything is likely Ok, unless you have very prolonged cranking before cold start-up. Does'nt sound like you do.
Cold engines want richer fuel mixtures and it takes a second for the extra fuel that is supplied to the plenum by the cold-start injector to reach the cylinders.
The warmer the engine is, the easier it is for the air/fuel mixture to be ignited, as well.
Everything is likely Ok, unless you have very prolonged cranking before cold start-up. Does'nt sound like you do.
Last edited by Diego toyota; 09-15-2016 at 03:25 PM.
#6
probably not the cap/rotor, because it works fine when cold.
#7
My 4Runner, since new, would go "zit zit zit (and sometimes one more zit)" before "running"
I assume that each "zit" noise is one rev
360,000 miles later - it still does that. Tho if its been sitting in a snow bank for a week it sometimes takes 2-3 tries (NH winters - when I was going Ice Climbing or backpacking...)
I assume that each "zit" noise is one rev
360,000 miles later - it still does that. Tho if its been sitting in a snow bank for a week it sometimes takes 2-3 tries (NH winters - when I was going Ice Climbing or backpacking...)
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#9
It could be one or combination of many things
Could be fuel delivery, but to say "definitely" is jumping to conclusion. No offense, either
I suspected that on mine, too so I installed a fuel pressure gage piggybacked on CSI (here). However, even when fuel pressure is good, I still get hard starts when cold.
So... I'm still chasing it down, methodically.
Could be CSI timer switch Like mentioned above not sensing the cold temp.
Could be CSI timer switch sensing but power (or ground - gotta look at your schematic) is not getting to CSI.
Could be that CSI is getting power but not opening or is clogged.
Could be a sensor that tells ECU engine is still cold not doing its job. Could be idle control system being told engine is still cold but solenoid, etc not doing its job. I'm still trying to understand this part myself.
...etc.
Be patient, test out theories before replacing parts.
Last edited by RAD4Runner; 09-19-2016 at 12:42 PM.
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I am confused as to just what the real issue is.
Are you saying the truck cranks the first time for 30 seconds it will never start ??
release the key crank again and the engine starts and runs fine??
Then starts just fine till it sits over night .
Are you saying the truck cranks the first time for 30 seconds it will never start ??
release the key crank again and the engine starts and runs fine??
Then starts just fine till it sits over night .
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