Do rebuilt 22res last as long?
10-30-2019, 01:17 AM
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Let me put it this way: the OEM specs are tighter tolerance, especially in the bottom end.
But it really depends much more on how you treat it, oil changes and they usually onlöy die because of a failing / failed cooling system.
But it really depends much more on how you treat it, oil changes and they usually onlöy die because of a failing / failed cooling system.
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10-30-2019, 08:02 AM
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Just in general, probably not. It's amazing what big companies like Toyota can and will spend on precision tooling and process control, and it's pretty hard for a smaller aftermarket shop to match that during a rebuild. That being said, @ev13wt is correct that careful maintenance will go a long way to ensure longevity.
The other piece of that is there isn't nearly as much data on rebuilts. A typical first run 22re will last 200,000 miles or more. Swap in a rebuilt at 200K, and by the time it has 200K on it, the truck has 400K and is failing or has failed for a lot of other reasons.
The other piece of that is there isn't nearly as much data on rebuilts. A typical first run 22re will last 200,000 miles or more. Swap in a rebuilt at 200K, and by the time it has 200K on it, the truck has 400K and is failing or has failed for a lot of other reasons.
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10-30-2019, 10:33 AM
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Rebuilt 22R-E engines can last as long as factory original 22R-E engines, but I would say many do not.
While routine maintenance and care are quite important to the longevity to an engine, maintenance does not mean much if the engine was rebuilt poorly or just "good enough" to begin with.
Since joining the forum in 2013, I have seen rebuilds last anywhere from "the truck never left the driveway before the engine self-destructed" to over 200,000 miles without issue.
Quality rebuilt engines take a good chunk of time, money, research, skill, and quality parts. As ev13wt said, the factory tolerances that Toyota used are pretty darn tight, and trying to match that takes extra care and due diligence that most people rebuilding engines won't do, or at least not aware of. Toyota used tighter tolerances in their manufacturing processes than they published in their Factory Repair Manual.
The reason 22RE Performance rebuilt engines cost more and take a while to rebuild is they care about the longevity of their engines, and quality takes both time and money to actually achieve. https://22reperformance.com/
Of course, if you already have a quality rebuilt engine, maintenance and upkeep will go a long way to keeping the rebuilt engine reliable for many miles to come.
While routine maintenance and care are quite important to the longevity to an engine, maintenance does not mean much if the engine was rebuilt poorly or just "good enough" to begin with.
Since joining the forum in 2013, I have seen rebuilds last anywhere from "the truck never left the driveway before the engine self-destructed" to over 200,000 miles without issue.
Quality rebuilt engines take a good chunk of time, money, research, skill, and quality parts. As ev13wt said, the factory tolerances that Toyota used are pretty darn tight, and trying to match that takes extra care and due diligence that most people rebuilding engines won't do, or at least not aware of. Toyota used tighter tolerances in their manufacturing processes than they published in their Factory Repair Manual.
The reason 22RE Performance rebuilt engines cost more and take a while to rebuild is they care about the longevity of their engines, and quality takes both time and money to actually achieve. https://22reperformance.com/
Of course, if you already have a quality rebuilt engine, maintenance and upkeep will go a long way to keeping the rebuilt engine reliable for many miles to come.
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10-30-2019, 01:48 PM
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I always dreamt of buying a Toyota oem long block. I used to check it out via part number, oggled the 12k price shown on toyodiy. 
Looked at the exploded drawings and virtually felt the tightness of the tolerances. Factory goodness.
Then, as luck would have it, I found two crated oem 22-RE for 2K on ebay Germany, from a guy that sells stuff he buys from bankrupt automotive retailers.
I thought I was dreaming. Done, shipped.
Backing up the statement above: incredible engine. Way more torque going up hills in 4th, even accelerating.
When cold and you give it too much gas, you can hear the tightness via the mechanical sounding exhaust note.
Yes, it gets oil changes all the damn time for zero reasons.
10K miles now and I think without mud terrains and steelies I could hit 100mph on 31" with 4.11 diff
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Looked at the exploded drawings and virtually felt the tightness of the tolerances. Factory goodness.
Then, as luck would have it, I found two crated oem 22-RE for 2K on ebay Germany, from a guy that sells stuff he buys from bankrupt automotive retailers.
I thought I was dreaming. Done, shipped.
Backing up the statement above: incredible engine. Way more torque going up hills in 4th, even accelerating.
When cold and you give it too much gas, you can hear the tightness via the mechanical sounding exhaust note.
Yes, it gets oil changes all the damn time for zero reasons.
10K miles now and I think without mud terrains and steelies I could hit 100mph on 31" with 4.11 diff
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