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Old 07-01-2018 | 10:53 AM
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CCA needed to start a '87 22R

I've been looking into more reliable batteries than a Lead Acid, and was wanting to switch to using Li-Ion, but it is undetermined as to what the CCA rating is for this engine. Anyone happen to know?
Old 07-01-2018 | 12:40 PM
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Why ??

Many things come into play.

Do you live North of the Arctic Circle ?

Automatic or manual ??

Fresh Rebuild or compression so low you can spin the engine with your hand .

Myself I get the most CCA for the battery group

Interstate Battery Lists a CCA range from 525 to 715
Old 07-01-2018 | 01:42 PM
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As the previous poster said it is best to get the highest CCA you can in the particular battery category that you're going to choose . If you're not worried about the money, you can always go with an AGM style battery which from my personal experience has plenty of umph to do the job and are resilient enough for the type of loads and abuse we put on them. Here is a link to optimia battery's website with your vehicle being a 1987 Toyota with a 22R plugged into their battery finder.

https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/product-finder?year=1987&make=Toyota&model=Pickup&engine=L 4-2.4L&find=find
Old 07-01-2018 | 02:43 PM
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Thanks Nate Allan, i totally spaced on Optima batteries.
Old 07-01-2018 | 03:18 PM
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Not a problem my friend,
Old 07-01-2018 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JayxC
... more reliable batteries than a Lead Acid, and was wanting to switch to using Li-Ion, ...
Seriously? How long has your current battery lasted already? For less than $100, you can get a battery with a 5 year warranty. That warranty applies even if you're regularly trying to start it in oh-so-cold Frostbite Falls, MN, so if you live someplace more hospitable, you can use the same battery for lots longer.
Old 07-02-2018 | 12:19 PM
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Seriously?... For less than $100, you can get a battery with a 5 year warranty....
Absolutely!
...but maybe P.O. has too much money on top of what he needs for restoring/enhancing reliability
Old 07-02-2018 | 02:34 PM
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I bought a Toyota TrueStart battery at the dealer three years ago for around $100 with the 84-month warranty and is doing just fine. I will look at the label for the Cold Cranking Amps number after I get back home. Reserve Capacity is also important too.

The battery before that was a Sears Die Hard battery. That one lasted 12 years!

Now, if we could get the OEM Toyota Panasonic batteries from Japan, that would be great! Those Panasonic batteries lasted a long time without a problem.

I am a little hesitant about the Optima batteries due to this: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f114...y-fire-300877/

I have noticed that Optima batteries can perform great and last a long time, but I have also seen several instances where Optima batteries don't last that long. From my brief reading of these type of batteries, they can be finicky in how they are used and charged, and are less forgiving than the lead-acid type of batteries.

If you want to use a different type of battery other than the lead-acid type, do lots of research in how they charge and discharge, and see if those characteristics fit with what you are trying to accomplish.

Old 07-02-2018 | 04:32 PM
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i prefer the optima or other AGM batteries for 4-wheeling. they don't spill in rough, steep, uneven ground. when i flopped my cj5 on its side years ago, i didn't have battery acid leaking out. i run one in my 4r, too.

battery thread

also, optima agm batteries ARE lead-acid.

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Old 07-02-2018 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wallytoo
I prefer the Optima or other AGM batteries for 4-wheeling. they don't spill in rough, steep, uneven ground. when i flopped my cj5 on its side years ago, I didn't have battery acid leaking out. I run one in my 4r, too.
^^ Off-road driving is a great application of AGM batteries. Regular automotive batteries do not like going upside down!

I do not off-road, so my batteries will never see the harsh environments your batteries see.

When I refer to lead-acid batteries, I meant regular, non-AGM type, but you are right. Thanks for the clarification.


To JayxC:
I personally have never seen a lithium ion car battery with the exception of electric vehicles and hybrids, so I have know idea what to look for if you make the switch from the traditional battery.

My Toyota spec. battery is rated at 550 Cold Cranking Amps and a Reserve Capacity of 100. Not much is needed for a 22R.

Old 07-02-2018 | 08:33 PM
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To JayxC:
I personally have never seen a lithium ion car battery with the exception of electric vehicles and hybrids, so I have know idea what to look for if you make the switch....
Same here. Probably very expensive, because you'd need a special battery management system.
O.P.,
If I were you, I'd stick to conventional if not off-roading, AGM if off-roading which is already a good upgrade. With the money you save, buy a street-legal header (like LCE's), gain a little more HP, and make ur truck sound sexier.
Old 07-02-2018 | 11:05 PM
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I am quite happy with the switch to the AGM batteries in my 2 vehicles that get used the most.

Both came from East Penn Manufacturing

Funny our Interstate Battery sales Person said the AGM batteries where not worth the money

With Optmia batteries being made in Mexico quality can be hit or miss
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