Can main bearings break and slip out?
#23
you can see how hard it would be for piece of a bearing, particularly as large as those pieces to slip out of the crank or connecting rod.
They'd have to make a 90 turn to get out past the web or throw:
also, none of the bearings have a 'lip' like the first photo.
I'm kinda in agreement that it looks more like piston pieces, or something left after some previous work.
They'd have to make a 90 turn to get out past the web or throw:
also, none of the bearings have a 'lip' like the first photo.
I'm kinda in agreement that it looks more like piston pieces, or something left after some previous work.
#25
but the OEMs are plastic...
er nylon...
er whatever...
it would have to be an upgraded metal guide set
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Highly, highly unlikely that's a piece of bearing. If it were, the motor would be destroyed to point of an entire rebuild or all together a new motor. I mean you'd actually have to have blown a counter weight on the crankshaft. In which case, I can't see anyone logically leaving a piece of bearing in the pan. Doesn't make any sense.
What's more likely is that being a piece of the timing cover, as suggested. There is crescent form on the cover right around/below the crank sprocket for the chain that often gets shattered when a chain goes. I've seen it with my own motor as well as others on this forum that have shared their pics of destruction.
What's more likely is that being a piece of the timing cover, as suggested. There is crescent form on the cover right around/below the crank sprocket for the chain that often gets shattered when a chain goes. I've seen it with my own motor as well as others on this forum that have shared their pics of destruction.
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Well, what you really need to do to make absolutely certain is scratch the concave side of the shrapnel. If it is a bearing, there will be a copper tone to it underneath the apparent surface. Unless someone had aluminum bearings in it, OEM bearings are tri-metal with a lead babbit surface over a copper layer. I forget what the backing material is, though.
#29
I've got time to work on the engine today. I'll poke around with a flashlight and check the piston skirts. After having read the posts thus far, I'm now more inclined to guess that it's either a piece from the timing cover or piston skirt. The only reason why I thought it might have been a bearing was how the curvature of the broken piece matched up perfectly with a new main bearing.
The PO's only put on 200,000 km (that's only about 125k miles). Other than a high idle, the engine sounded fine. I only pulled the pan, because I already had the diff out and the oil pan had a leak.
I pulled the timing cover when I replaced the head earlier this year, but I don't recall seeing anything out of the ordinary. I'll pull the cover again and take a closer look for any missing chunks.
This has certainly been another learning experience. I guess there's always more to learn.
Stay tuned...
The PO's only put on 200,000 km (that's only about 125k miles). Other than a high idle, the engine sounded fine. I only pulled the pan, because I already had the diff out and the oil pan had a leak.
I pulled the timing cover when I replaced the head earlier this year, but I don't recall seeing anything out of the ordinary. I'll pull the cover again and take a closer look for any missing chunks.
This has certainly been another learning experience. I guess there's always more to learn.
Stay tuned...
#31
Mystery solved after inspecting old timing cover that was removed earlier this year. Everyone pretty much called it right by saying that it couldn't have been a bearing. Give yourself a big pat on the back...
Here's a shot of the new cover and a look at the clearance between the chain and protruding lip in the TC.
Here's a shot of the new cover and a look at the clearance between the chain and protruding lip in the TC.
Last edited by YotaJunky; 12-10-2008 at 04:59 PM.
#33
I couldn't agree with you more. Yes, I'm relieved that it didn't turn out to be a full rebuild.
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