Broke a timing cover bolt. Now what?
#1
Broke a timing cover bolt. Now what?
Ok so i broke this one. I forgot to reset the torque wrench from the head bolts. ( Yes the head is all torqued down)
I though it just had a little ultra gray in the hole and snapped it. It goes through the AC bracket.
I tried vice grips but that is a no go.
So what now ? at least i did not put any locktite on it.
and here it is now.
I though it just had a little ultra gray in the hole and snapped it. It goes through the AC bracket.
I tried vice grips but that is a no go.
So what now ? at least i did not put any locktite on it.
and here it is now.
Last edited by Obmi; 10-24-2015 at 03:17 PM.
#2
I stripped two cam bearing bolt(hole)s. Fixing that sort of stuff is not only difficult and fiddly, you always worry about making something worse.
So if I were you, I'd bit the bullet and remove the timing cover. I understand that's a bitch with the 22re head on, but I don't see any GOOD way to get that bolt out.
There is a tool for removing studs that might help. You WON'T be able to use the 2-nuts jammed together method
But I'd be willing to try vise-grips (er, that's a trademark, let's try "locking pliers") once you have enough room.
So if I were you, I'd bit the bullet and remove the timing cover. I understand that's a bitch with the 22re head on, but I don't see any GOOD way to get that bolt out.
There is a tool for removing studs that might help. You WON'T be able to use the 2-nuts jammed together method
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Torque wrenches nothing but trouble
Once the timing cover is off you should be able to remove it.
If you have not destroyed the end to bad you might be able to clean it up enough to get some nuts on.
Thing is is the oil leak where the bolt is broke going to be worse then the one you will have where the head meets the timing cover??
That is the question of the day!!!!
Once the timing cover is off you should be able to remove it.
If you have not destroyed the end to bad you might be able to clean it up enough to get some nuts on.
Thing is is the oil leak where the bolt is broke going to be worse then the one you will have where the head meets the timing cover??
That is the question of the day!!!!
#4
I would pull the timing cover. Once the cover and broke bolt is removed, use a little sealant on the head gasket to hold the head gasket to the head.
What happens is when you try to slide the cover back into place, it is possible to kink the head gasket. It wont hurt compression or anything like that. The part of the head gasket that is possible to damage is the square part that circles the timing chain. With sealant holding it up good an tight and you being gentle and taking your time getting the cover on with out kinking the gasket, you should be okay.
When installing the timing cover, kind of start the bottom of the cover and tilt it into place carefully watching the top of the head gasket. It is just a slight tilt/angle when installing the cover. I never could just slide it straight in to place, always had a little tilt to it.
What happens is when you try to slide the cover back into place, it is possible to kink the head gasket. It wont hurt compression or anything like that. The part of the head gasket that is possible to damage is the square part that circles the timing chain. With sealant holding it up good an tight and you being gentle and taking your time getting the cover on with out kinking the gasket, you should be okay.
When installing the timing cover, kind of start the bottom of the cover and tilt it into place carefully watching the top of the head gasket. It is just a slight tilt/angle when installing the cover. I never could just slide it straight in to place, always had a little tilt to it.
Last edited by Terrys87; 10-25-2015 at 05:39 AM.
#5
Torque wrenches nothing but trouble
If you have not destroyed the end to bad you might be able to clean it up enough to get some nuts on.
Thing is is the oil leak where the bolt is broke going to be worse then the one you will have where the head meets the timing cover??
That is the question of the day!!!!
If you have not destroyed the end to bad you might be able to clean it up enough to get some nuts on.
Thing is is the oil leak where the bolt is broke going to be worse then the one you will have where the head meets the timing cover??
That is the question of the day!!!!
FSM says 9lb toque. This leads me to believe its not a support point. (Note the ideas will get worse the farther down they are on the list.)
Idea 1. Put washers behind bracket and let that put clamping force on the cover.
Idea 2. Tap the bracket and use a drilled out bolt ( to accommodate the broken bolt. ( So the new bigger bolt slides over the old bolt.)
Idea 3. Use a threaded rod coupler /nut and slip part of it down over the good threads on the broken bolt. then New short bolt on the other end.
Idea 4. Drill out the bracket and see if I can get a nut on the new "Stud".
Here are some current picks.
#7
You mentioned, in another post, that you want to drop the oil pan to clean out all the accumulated sludge and such. Maybe now would be a good time to lift the motor up, drop and clean the pan, pull the timing cover while the pan is off, deal with the broken stud and put it all back together. That way there is no jury rigging other parts and everything works as it should. The cost of oil pan gasket(s) has to be better than the cost of a new head gasket? Just a thought.
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#8
I went a head with option 1. But its ok Im sure i could tear it back down in a day if i had to.
I'm really tired today. It will probably be ok. the real pain in the ass was the intake manifold. My big hands don't fit underneath to put the bottom screw's in. I got it but like i said "Super Pain in the ass.
All i have to do now its. torque the main pulley out on the plenum when im done cleaning it, and put the manifold back on.
I had the ac on but took it back off the make more room for the intake install.
That's it other then changing the oil filter. (As far as i know)
I'm really tired today. It will probably be ok. the real pain in the ass was the intake manifold. My big hands don't fit underneath to put the bottom screw's in. I got it but like i said "Super Pain in the ass.
All i have to do now its. torque the main pulley out on the plenum when im done cleaning it, and put the manifold back on.
I had the ac on but took it back off the make more room for the intake install.
That's it other then changing the oil filter. (As far as i know)
#9
You mentioned, in another post, that you want to drop the oil pan to clean out all the accumulated sludge and such. Maybe now would be a good time to lift the motor up, drop and clean the pan, pull the timing cover while the pan is off, deal with the broken stud and put it all back together. That way there is no jury rigging other parts and everything works as it should. The cost of oil pan gasket(s) has to be better than the cost of a new head gasket? Just a thought.
YOu have had a wicked time with this project
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