RBX

did the threads come out?
guess you will need to helo-coil(sp?)

peow130

If you broke it off above the head, pull the bolt with a pipe wrench. Go heavy on the PB blaster. If you shear it again in the head, drill and easy out, and pray you don't nick the threads..

irab88

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the head is stuck on. it won't come off in the back

i'll get some photos up in a bit

irab88

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the bolt



the stuck head



the small gap in the back




on a brighter note, i now have my radiator, fan, alternator adapter and bracket, and maybe some other stuff at home. more pics in the morning

RBX

Ian,
For future reference, when dealing with bolts/nuts use a snapping force like an impact, not a slow hard pressure. Of course, you can still have broken bolts either way, but this method should help avoid a broken bolt.
That's what I was always taught,not that there is always a choice either.

peow130

Something is still bolted down, or if it was anything like my truck, the bolt bassages in the head had crud in them that made them hard to get out

irab88

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thanks. yeah, that bolt did not want to move. from taking everything else off, i knew that if i heard it snap, i was fine. but if it was like twisting cold clay, it would break.
i don't know of anything else holding it on. i'll look tomorrow and try to take off any bolts from the backside.

crud. i thought i was going to get away without shearing a bolt. at least i still have an inch or so to play with.

92 TOY

geez man....i just came across this thread and I saw it was you and holy hell you are in a bind. i did not read the whole thing......i will but i just don't have the time right now.

give me a brief run-down. manifolds are off right? head is held down by head bolts and the hidden one to the timing cover...did you get that one?

92 TOY

Ian......I just was looking at you pic of the above bolt......if I remember correctly (an you can confirm this by just looking at the bolts, that broken bolt will not be impeding you at all EXCEPT.....it does not look like you are pulling the head STRAIGHT UP but rather, at an angle and it is likely binding against the remaining shaft of the bolt..........make a gantry or borrow a lift and lift it straight out......or do what I did and get inside there and lift it straight out

92 TOY

okay....just skimmed the thread and it looks like i tuned in at the right time.

get your hood off.

lift that head straight up.

i'm spooked by how much your pics and y pics are the same.....color and all.....creepy

good luck man......i gotta get going....check ya tomorrow morning before work. i think you already mentioned it but make sure you read my "B" thread.

irab88

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thanks. i think i can do that. it'll be an all-day project.

all 11 bolts are out, unless there is something behind the head.

so tomorrow: hood off, heater hoses off, head off (or else... (or else i'll wait 'til spring break))

also, i got in the engine bay where the radiator was, and tried to lift the head by hand. no joy.

thanks for the info, 92!

92 TOY

Ok....i'll check ya tonight. good luck

irab88

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pics from yesterday:

my bolt layout board



finally got the wiring harness out





pile o' stuff, including head gaskets, front end kit, radiator, villager fan, alternator bracket, and alternator adapter



that stupid socket bolt. had to go get vice grips to get it off





reference pics



lower intake off





in order, 1-4









old and new alternator brackets





reference





alternator bracket out



i'll be painting the bracket with this





blowing on the pool of oil revealed the hidden bolt. and eventually found a piece of timing guide





how i wasn't able to move the bolt (#8)



yeah, ratchet straps



and these again







so, order of events today:

-lift head from centered above lift point
-if it comes off, cool
-pb blast the living daylights out of the un-threaded stud that was bolt #8
-try to vice grip it into submission, without stripping it. if i can do that, then i'll just need new head bolts, and all will be fine. i don't want to heli-coil


ian out

Resto-noob

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Agree completely. Pipe wrenches are invaluable for this sort of thing. I used a pipe wrench with a cheater bar to remove the studs in my old exhaust manifold just the other day. Vise grips just chewed up the bolt. I also put Kroil on the bolts at least five or six times, which helped, I'm sure.

irab88

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so if i understand correctly:




is better than

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Resto-noob

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You got it. Vise grips do have their place, though.

You also get a tool that can accept a cheater bar, which is a huge plus.

irab88

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cool, thanks.

update: pulling straight up on the head yielded no better results. now it's just annoying.

irab88

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head is almost off. it's about 3" off of the block, with maybe 1" left to go. it also took the better part of a can o' pb blaster and some hammering (not on the actual head or block). almost there...

irab88

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the head is off!!!!!!!

irab88

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got the #8 bolt out!!!!!!!!!

no heli-coil needed!!!!!!!!!!!

epic win!!!

so how'd i do it? i used a wrench the length of my arm is how. ftmfw.