broke my timing chain guide, time to rebuild (pics)
#162
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If you broke it off above the head, pull the bolt with a pipe wrench. Go heavy on the PB blaster. If you shear it again in the head, drill and easy out, and pray you don't nick the threads..
#165
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Ian,
For future reference, when dealing with bolts/nuts use a snapping force like an impact, not a slow hard pressure. Of course, you can still have broken bolts either way, but this method should help avoid a broken bolt.
That's what I was always taught,not that there is always a choice either.
For future reference, when dealing with bolts/nuts use a snapping force like an impact, not a slow hard pressure. Of course, you can still have broken bolts either way, but this method should help avoid a broken bolt.
That's what I was always taught,not that there is always a choice either.
#166
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#167
Ian,
For future reference, when dealing with bolts/nuts use a snapping force like an impact, not a slow hard pressure. Of course, you can still have broken bolts either way, but this method should help avoid a broken bolt.
That's what I was always taught,not that there is always a choice either.
For future reference, when dealing with bolts/nuts use a snapping force like an impact, not a slow hard pressure. Of course, you can still have broken bolts either way, but this method should help avoid a broken bolt.
That's what I was always taught,not that there is always a choice either.
crud. i thought i was going to get away without shearing a bolt. at least i still have an inch or so to play with.
#168
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geez man....i just came across this thread and I saw it was you and holy hell you are in a bind. i did not read the whole thing......i will but i just don't have the time right now.
give me a brief run-down. manifolds are off right? head is held down by head bolts and the hidden one to the timing cover...did you get that one?
give me a brief run-down. manifolds are off right? head is held down by head bolts and the hidden one to the timing cover...did you get that one?
Last edited by 92 TOY; 04-09-2011 at 05:05 PM.
#169
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Ian......I just was looking at you pic of the above bolt......if I remember correctly (an you can confirm this by just looking at the bolts, that broken bolt will not be impeding you at all EXCEPT.....it does not look like you are pulling the head STRAIGHT UP but rather, at an angle and it is likely binding against the remaining shaft of the bolt..........make a gantry or borrow a lift and lift it straight out......or do what I did and get inside there and lift it straight out
#170
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okay....just skimmed the thread and it looks like i tuned in at the right time.
get your hood off.
lift that head straight up.
i'm spooked by how much your pics and y pics are the same.....color and all.....creepy
good luck man......i gotta get going....check ya tomorrow morning before work. i think you already mentioned it but make sure you read my "B" thread.
get your hood off.
lift that head straight up.
i'm spooked by how much your pics and y pics are the same.....color and all.....creepy
good luck man......i gotta get going....check ya tomorrow morning before work. i think you already mentioned it but make sure you read my "B" thread.
#171
thanks. i think i can do that. it'll be an all-day project.
all 11 bolts are out, unless there is something behind the head.
so tomorrow: hood off, heater hoses off, head off (or else... (or else i'll wait 'til spring break))
also, i got in the engine bay where the radiator was, and tried to lift the head by hand. no joy.
thanks for the info, 92!
all 11 bolts are out, unless there is something behind the head.
so tomorrow: hood off, heater hoses off, head off (or else... (or else i'll wait 'til spring break))
also, i got in the engine bay where the radiator was, and tried to lift the head by hand. no joy.
thanks for the info, 92!
#173
pics from yesterday:
my bolt layout board
finally got the wiring harness out
pile o' stuff, including head gaskets, front end kit, radiator, villager fan, alternator bracket, and alternator adapter
that stupid socket bolt. had to go get vice grips to get it off
reference pics
lower intake off
in order, 1-4
old and new alternator brackets
reference
alternator bracket out
i'll be painting the bracket with this
blowing on the pool of oil revealed the hidden bolt. and eventually found a piece of timing guide
how i wasn't able to move the bolt (#8)
yeah, ratchet straps
and these again
so, order of events today:
-lift head from centered above lift point
-if it comes off, cool
-pb blast the living daylights out of the un-threaded stud that was bolt #8
-try to vice grip it into submission, without stripping it. if i can do that, then i'll just need new head bolts, and all will be fine. i don't want to heli-coil
ian out
my bolt layout board
finally got the wiring harness out
pile o' stuff, including head gaskets, front end kit, radiator, villager fan, alternator bracket, and alternator adapter
that stupid socket bolt. had to go get vice grips to get it off
reference pics
lower intake off
in order, 1-4
old and new alternator brackets
reference
alternator bracket out
i'll be painting the bracket with this
blowing on the pool of oil revealed the hidden bolt. and eventually found a piece of timing guide
how i wasn't able to move the bolt (#8)
yeah, ratchet straps
and these again
so, order of events today:
-lift head from centered above lift point
-if it comes off, cool
-pb blast the living daylights out of the un-threaded stud that was bolt #8
-try to vice grip it into submission, without stripping it. if i can do that, then i'll just need new head bolts, and all will be fine. i don't want to heli-coil
ian out
Last edited by irab88; 04-10-2011 at 02:28 PM.
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Agree completely. Pipe wrenches are invaluable for this sort of thing. I used a pipe wrench with a cheater bar to remove the studs in my old exhaust manifold just the other day. Vise grips just chewed up the bolt. I also put Kroil on the bolts at least five or six times, which helped, I'm sure.