Beware Of Clutch Bracket Fatigue!
#141
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Where are you guys buying the new bush ins and sleeves for the clutch pedals? I have a 91 and need to redo mine. I am having trouble finding these for sale anywheres. Thanks for any help.
#147
Welp, its my turn!!!
I was thinking that the clutch pedal was extra squishy. I figured as much. Got down under there and confirmed the crack - pushed in the pedal and saw it flex.
Is there a good write-up for this procedure? If not, I'll make one when I take my down and fix it. I love taking pictures so hopefully it would be helpful to someone else.
Can anyone confirm how many bolts hold the bracket from the engine compartment? I saw one bolt in there, but looking at the bracket it looks like at least two. I didn't look very hard so maybe one is hidden by the booster? I now know my next project!
I was thinking that the clutch pedal was extra squishy. I figured as much. Got down under there and confirmed the crack - pushed in the pedal and saw it flex.
Is there a good write-up for this procedure? If not, I'll make one when I take my down and fix it. I love taking pictures so hopefully it would be helpful to someone else.
Can anyone confirm how many bolts hold the bracket from the engine compartment? I saw one bolt in there, but looking at the bracket it looks like at least two. I didn't look very hard so maybe one is hidden by the booster? I now know my next project!
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Welp, its my turn!!!
I was thinking that the clutch pedal was extra squishy. I figured as much. Got down under there and confirmed the crack - pushed in the pedal and saw it flex.
Is there a good write-up for this procedure? If not, I'll make one when I take my down and fix it. I love taking pictures so hopefully it would be helpful to someone else.
Can anyone confirm how many bolts hold the bracket from the engine compartment? I saw one bolt in there, but looking at the bracket it looks like at least two. I didn't look very hard so maybe one is hidden by the booster? I now know my next project!
I was thinking that the clutch pedal was extra squishy. I figured as much. Got down under there and confirmed the crack - pushed in the pedal and saw it flex.
Is there a good write-up for this procedure? If not, I'll make one when I take my down and fix it. I love taking pictures so hopefully it would be helpful to someone else.
Can anyone confirm how many bolts hold the bracket from the engine compartment? I saw one bolt in there, but looking at the bracket it looks like at least two. I didn't look very hard so maybe one is hidden by the booster? I now know my next project!
#149
OK so let me clarify on part number(s).
I have a 92 4Runner v6 Sr5 with the same problem.
So for my gen is part #55106-35050 what I need? http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/t...106-35050.html
And what about this thing, does it help? #55113-34010 http://www.toyotapart.com/55113-34010.html
I want to make sure I'm getting the right parts before I drop this kind of $$$. Thanks guys!
I have a 92 4Runner v6 Sr5 with the same problem.
So for my gen is part #55106-35050 what I need? http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/t...106-35050.html
And what about this thing, does it help? #55113-34010 http://www.toyotapart.com/55113-34010.html
I want to make sure I'm getting the right parts before I drop this kind of $$$. Thanks guys!
#150
Hey guys,
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
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Hey guys,
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
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Hey guys,
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
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man i have been having these issues on and off for a year. replaced slave then master...had some pressure issues and finally i had it working alright but was still leaking fluid. So as long as i kept it full and bled it if it went low it seemed to not be hurting anything until the res was low then shifting became really sticky.
Then the other day i had the pop and lost the whole petal, the rod looks like it has just been holding on by a thread and is warped... the plastic ring was pretty destroyed and the threading stripped to the point i was not able to reattach. someone told me they ran into issues on a pickup with the rod actually being the wrong size so that had been my thought
Until i came across this post I was thinking a crappy master or just not the right size rod. Now i am trying to find an elf to crawl under and check the plates.
Super helpful thread, but i am still really hoping on a bum MC keep ya'll posted
Then the other day i had the pop and lost the whole petal, the rod looks like it has just been holding on by a thread and is warped... the plastic ring was pretty destroyed and the threading stripped to the point i was not able to reattach. someone told me they ran into issues on a pickup with the rod actually being the wrong size so that had been my thought
Until i came across this post I was thinking a crappy master or just not the right size rod. Now i am trying to find an elf to crawl under and check the plates.
Super helpful thread, but i am still really hoping on a bum MC keep ya'll posted
#154
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Hey guys,
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
I just did this and put up a full tutorial with over 100 pictures -
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f166.../#post52213698
I hope it is helpful to someone out there.
Carry on!
#155
I had this happen to my 90 runner. I used a bottle jack and a 2x4 to push everything back into place. Then welded it up under the dash. Also added a gusset from clutch perch to brake perch cause that's the way it looked to be flexing. Now the pedal feels better than ever.
#156
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Has any one tried using the T100 bracket, like this guy http://www.toyota-4runner.org/classi...-write-up.html ?
I know its the "wrong" application for 4Runners and Pickups but with that bracket only holding the clutch pedal, it would make it a lot easier to replace in the future when it breaks again. My pedal bracket has already broken on my 2x in the last 12 years and I'm sure I'm "due" for it to break again soon.
For any of you ME's out there, is there any reason having 2 separate brackets would be any weaker than having one large one connected by that relatively thin section of sheet metal?
Also, does anyone have a picture of the bracket/brace that supports this bracket from inside the cowl area?
I know its the "wrong" application for 4Runners and Pickups but with that bracket only holding the clutch pedal, it would make it a lot easier to replace in the future when it breaks again. My pedal bracket has already broken on my 2x in the last 12 years and I'm sure I'm "due" for it to break again soon.
For any of you ME's out there, is there any reason having 2 separate brackets would be any weaker than having one large one connected by that relatively thin section of sheet metal?
Also, does anyone have a picture of the bracket/brace that supports this bracket from inside the cowl area?
#157
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I'm having an issue with my 85 4runner in that when I attempt to go from neutral (clutch pedal down) to 1st gear (releasing clutch) my truck shudders terribly for a few seconds before finally moving forward. I was told that the clutch bracket issue does not effect my year of truck and I've tried everything else I know of to fix this issue.
#158
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That sounds like your flywheel needs to be turned IMO. Mine does that sometimes, I have to rev it a little higher and release clutch a little quicker to keep it from getting in that harmonic frequency that will really shake the drivetrain.
My Civic was the same way, and was especially bad before it was warmed up in really damp air like after a rain. Rev higher, release slower, warm up clutch, and it stopped. But it's less severe with the 4R, a new clutch and flywheel are my suggestions if you can't stand it.
My Civic was the same way, and was especially bad before it was warmed up in really damp air like after a rain. Rev higher, release slower, warm up clutch, and it stopped. But it's less severe with the 4R, a new clutch and flywheel are my suggestions if you can't stand it.
#159
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That sounds like your flywheel needs to be turned IMO. Mine does that sometimes, I have to rev it a little higher and release clutch a little quicker to keep it from getting in that harmonic frequency that will really shake the drivetrain.
My Civic was the same way, and was especially bad before it was warmed up in really damp air like after a rain. Rev higher, release slower, warm up clutch, and it stopped. But it's less severe with the 4R, a new clutch and flywheel are my suggestions if you can't stand it.
My Civic was the same way, and was especially bad before it was warmed up in really damp air like after a rain. Rev higher, release slower, warm up clutch, and it stopped. But it's less severe with the 4R, a new clutch and flywheel are my suggestions if you can't stand it.
#160
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I would be very surprised if you didn't go after clutch and flywheel while the powertrain is out of the vehicle, but it's worth the question. If it were mine, buy the replacement parts and deal with it until something fails or until I drop the tranny for some other reason - install duals, do rear main seal, etc.