Best engine for longevity/fuel economy?
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I vote 22RE. Simple and cheap to get parts but they don't break anyway. Best motor ever made IMHO (Take that SBC). The 2.7 for best fuel eco though.
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definitely the 22R-E. These engines were built 500-600% stronger than they needed to be for their power output.
You can't really go wrong with any Toyota engine however, as long as you take good care of it with proper maintenance and driving habits.
The truck engines were/are inteneded for good torque and truck performance rather than fuel economy. The best you can expect from a 22R-E is about 24-25 mpg. For the VZ series engines, it's about 17-20. Don't know about the 3RZ-FE, but probably similar.
You can't really go wrong with any Toyota engine however, as long as you take good care of it with proper maintenance and driving habits.
The truck engines were/are inteneded for good torque and truck performance rather than fuel economy. The best you can expect from a 22R-E is about 24-25 mpg. For the VZ series engines, it's about 17-20. Don't know about the 3RZ-FE, but probably similar.
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Well I have had a 3.0V6 and a 22R and I have to say that the R series motors can take a mean beating and they just keep asking for more. Out of that list my vote is the 22RE. We did manage to kill a 22R but it had a hard hard life. And the last people who rebuilt it didn't do much of a job. They are good on fuel as well. I put 70000 kms on mine in the time before I built my diesel and it NEVER let me down. Even when I took it swimming it started right up after and brought me home. -50 without a plug in it started. Wasn't happy but it did. 2000 mile round trip not a hiccup. Didn't like 80 mph but it would go there if it had to. Great motors.
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It depends how you treat the motors.
at Parkcity Toyota they have images of all sorts of Yota's that have passed 1 million kms and are still going. In 2003 there was a vet. in Medicine Hat that had a 3.0 V6 in his 90 4Runner and was near 1 million km's. and i've seen Celica's with the 22R-E (or what ever they had in the 80's) that was near 1.5 million km's!!!!
at Parkcity Toyota they have images of all sorts of Yota's that have passed 1 million kms and are still going. In 2003 there was a vet. in Medicine Hat that had a 3.0 V6 in his 90 4Runner and was near 1 million km's. and i've seen Celica's with the 22R-E (or what ever they had in the 80's) that was near 1.5 million km's!!!!
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i would say the 3.4. You see quite a few 3.4 well into the 200k and even pushing 300k miles. All depends on how well you take care of it. Unless you plan on neglecting it and beating the hell out of it the definitely the 22r
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wow, i was expecting to see more votes for the 2.7 or 3.4
i guess maybe just because theyre a newer engine. thanks for the thoughts. basically, im considering whether to get rid of my 94 4runner and get a pickup. im just not sure what year/engine to get.
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I've had this 94, w/22re, for about 2 yrs, couple of hicups here and there, but is still going strong with 200,000 miles on it. In my family we've had so many Toyota's, all of them older. The "r" series are great. Had a corona, back in the day, 18r, went over 300,000. You can't kill these things!!!!!!!
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22RE for durability and economy.
5VZ-FE for livability and durability. A 3.4 in a pickup is wonderful, and economical. Just not that fond of the 2.7, I really do NOT get all the excitement over swapping one in. If you must run a 2.7, by all means do NOT get an automatic. Very frustrating.
5VZ-FE for livability and durability. A 3.4 in a pickup is wonderful, and economical. Just not that fond of the 2.7, I really do NOT get all the excitement over swapping one in. If you must run a 2.7, by all means do NOT get an automatic. Very frustrating.
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The 3.0 shouldn't be mentioned in the criteria mentioned period.
Displacement doesnt fair well in the mpg department as a rule so it leaves the 22re and 2.7.....I say the 22re for pure simpleness and reliable, but the 2.7 has more power and equal if not slightly better mpg's if you aren't beating it.
Displacement doesnt fair well in the mpg department as a rule so it leaves the 22re and 2.7.....I say the 22re for pure simpleness and reliable, but the 2.7 has more power and equal if not slightly better mpg's if you aren't beating it.
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Over time I've had a 3.4, 3.0, 2.7, several 22re's, a 22r, and a 20r. My favorite engine to drive was the 3.4, my favorite to work on is a 22re, and my overall favorite is the 2.7. The 2.7 is still a pretty easy engine to work on and is quite a bit more powerful than the 22re. My 2.7 had 290k miles on it with good compression all across the board when I sold that Taco. The kid I sold it to is still driving it to this day 3 years later. I had no problem with my 3.0 but I only had that engine for around 8 months before I totalled the truck (teenager lol).
I absolutely HATE carb'd Toyota motors so I won't even go there.
I absolutely HATE carb'd Toyota motors so I won't even go there.
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I have a 98 runner 2wd automatic with the 3.4 as far as longevity goes its great it has over 800k miles on it and still runs like new with only regular maintance.... but for fuel economy I was getting around 15 mpg so it was not all that good.
Recently, I changed the factory exhaust with a gibson 3in diameter cat-back, an air raid throttle body spacer, and a k&n cold air intake (all from jcwhitney.com and under $700 all together).... after this Ive been averaging between 19mpg and 22mpg (just by letting the engine breath a little more), I have noticed a significant hp increase but nothing outrageous and havent had it ran on a dyno so no actual numbers as to exactly how much
Recently, I changed the factory exhaust with a gibson 3in diameter cat-back, an air raid throttle body spacer, and a k&n cold air intake (all from jcwhitney.com and under $700 all together).... after this Ive been averaging between 19mpg and 22mpg (just by letting the engine breath a little more), I have noticed a significant hp increase but nothing outrageous and havent had it ran on a dyno so no actual numbers as to exactly how much
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