The Ball Joint spacer/Cruiser Coil - Longer Shock P/N thread
02-11-2007, 10:26 PM
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Bumping an old thread.... I have been running the cruiser coils and rancho adjustables in the rear for awhile now and they have been great. I have found that when I run at the dunes and go from flat land to climbing a dune at speed, I can bottom out on my shocks. I have my stock bumpstops in there right now, and it looks like I need a couple more inches (I will get a measurment tomorrow). It doesn't look like it would be easy to move the stock bumpstop down, but it does look like I could add something like this to the bottom without removing the coil.
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9143
or this depending on how tall I need to go.
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9136
It looks like there is enough room to drill the hole from the bottom and throw one of these in. Let me know what you think.
Have any of you done this yet? I have run some pretty fast fire roads and forest roads and didn't ever bottom out, but the transition from flat to steep dunes definately bottomed out my longer shocks. If anything this could be a FYI to all you running longer shocks and stock bumpstops.
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9143
or this depending on how tall I need to go.
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9136
It looks like there is enough room to drill the hole from the bottom and throw one of these in. Let me know what you think.
Have any of you done this yet? I have run some pretty fast fire roads and forest roads and didn't ever bottom out, but the transition from flat to steep dunes definately bottomed out my longer shocks. If anything this could be a FYI to all you running longer shocks and stock bumpstops.
02-18-2007, 03:29 PM
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OK, I am going to post this here, because it has to do with the longer shocks and lift in this thread. I will start by saying that I have the cruiser coils and rancho 9009 adjustable shocks.
I measured from the bumpstop to the axle and have about 4.25". Not knowing exactly how much of the shaft is showing when the shock is compressed, I estimated that I have about the same measurement on the shaft before the shock bottoms out. Sounds okay, except that the shock is angled, so if the axle is coming straight up towards the bumpstop, the shock will bottom out before the bumpstop hits because the shock is on the long leg of the triangle. This is why I have only noticed this at the dunes where the whole back end can slam down at once.
To remedy I ordered these:
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9101
I probably could have ordered 1" ones but I wanted to make sure I got ones big enough and they were only $2 more for the set. After measuring again, I cut them down to a little over 1"
The tops I cut off:
YOu will need an extension if you plan on doing this while the coils are on the vehicle and you plan on getting anywhere near the center. If you are planning on putting cruiser coils on, I would drill when you have the coils off and then when they are on you can measure, trim your bumpstop as needed, and then install them.
I had to jack up one side at a time in order to make room for the drill and bits. It is real hard to get perfectly centered by drilling from underneath, because you can't get the drill bit straight up and down. I drilled a 3/8" hole and then installed the bumpstop with a 14 mm or 9/16 socket. NOw I shouldn't bottom out on my shocks anymore at the dunes.
Overall this was real easy once you have a long enough drill bit. It shouldn't hamper my on trail travel and will help my shocks stay alive longer. I don't know the specifics on the other shocks in this thread but it is worth getting under your rig with a tape measure before you bust a shock.
I measured from the bumpstop to the axle and have about 4.25". Not knowing exactly how much of the shaft is showing when the shock is compressed, I estimated that I have about the same measurement on the shaft before the shock bottoms out. Sounds okay, except that the shock is angled, so if the axle is coming straight up towards the bumpstop, the shock will bottom out before the bumpstop hits because the shock is on the long leg of the triangle. This is why I have only noticed this at the dunes where the whole back end can slam down at once.
To remedy I ordered these:
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...sp?prod=9.9101
I probably could have ordered 1" ones but I wanted to make sure I got ones big enough and they were only $2 more for the set. After measuring again, I cut them down to a little over 1"
The tops I cut off:
YOu will need an extension if you plan on doing this while the coils are on the vehicle and you plan on getting anywhere near the center. If you are planning on putting cruiser coils on, I would drill when you have the coils off and then when they are on you can measure, trim your bumpstop as needed, and then install them.
I had to jack up one side at a time in order to make room for the drill and bits. It is real hard to get perfectly centered by drilling from underneath, because you can't get the drill bit straight up and down. I drilled a 3/8" hole and then installed the bumpstop with a 14 mm or 9/16 socket. NOw I shouldn't bottom out on my shocks anymore at the dunes.
Overall this was real easy once you have a long enough drill bit. It shouldn't hamper my on trail travel and will help my shocks stay alive longer. I don't know the specifics on the other shocks in this thread but it is worth getting under your rig with a tape measure before you bust a shock.
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03-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Does anyone happen to know part #s for rancho 5000 to fit a pickup with 2-3in lift? and im pretty sure they are but the part #s for the front with bj spacers would be the same for the pickup correct?
05-14-2007, 11:58 AM
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Hey,
I'm just doing this lift on my 4runner now and I was wondering if the procomps shocks for the 4" lift will work in the front? Will they limit uptravel?
Thanks for any help,
Jeremy
p.s. great thread
I'm just doing this lift on my 4runner now and I was wondering if the procomps shocks for the 4" lift will work in the front? Will they limit uptravel?
Thanks for any help,
Jeremy
p.s. great thread
05-14-2007, 05:05 PM
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I've read this whole thread now and to some up with people's expirences
FJ80 coils
Rancho 5009/9009 rear shocks
BJ spacers
OME N98 front shocks
Does this seem to be the best setup? Maybe rancho's up front?
FJ80 coils
Rancho 5009/9009 rear shocks
BJ spacers
OME N98 front shocks
Does this seem to be the best setup? Maybe rancho's up front?
05-14-2007, 05:28 PM
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what im thinking of doing is puting BJ spacers up front with downey t bars so ill have about 3 inches in the front and right now i have downey 1.5 inch lift HD coils int he rear. I was planning on putting in some Bilstein 5100 seris all around. my question is would i be better off getting Cruiser coils in the rear and BJ spacers up front and would they have the same spring rate as HD progressive coils, or should i get the 1.5 spring spacer or the 2 inch spring spacer. im set on BJ spacers in the front but my back end is undecided.
05-17-2007, 11:10 PM
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I got my stuff all installed and have a few days driving on it now. The Procomp shocks for a 4" IFS lift are too long, I'm stuck with them as my stock size Procomps were about 1.5inch too short. I still have about 3" of shock shaft showing with the weght of the truck on it so this weekend will be a good test.
Jeremy
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05-17-2007, 11:33 PM
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Has worked well for me.
05-31-2007, 07:20 AM
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what im thinking of doing is puting BJ spacers up front with downey t bars so ill have about 3 inches in the front and right now i have downey 1.5 inch lift HD coils int he rear. I was planning on putting in some Bilstein 5100 seris all around. my question is would i be better off getting Cruiser coils in the rear and BJ spacers up front and would they have the same spring rate as HD progressive coils, or should i get the 1.5 spring spacer or the 2 inch spring spacer. im set on BJ spacers in the front but my back end is undecided.
The downey t bars (or any t bars) give you that extra lift at a cost... which is ride comfort...
I like the cruiser coils because they aren't too stiff, they flex very nice and the ride is comfortable.
06-10-2007, 01:37 PM
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Given that we don't have coils in the front of our trucks, yes, the coils are for the rear. Mine are in as of today but I haven't got to see it yet, 25 minutes and counting till I'm off work. Why did I volunteer for this overtime anyway? Ohh yah, to pay for the 'Runner parts.
OR make em... 
