91 Pickup 22RE - still won't start sometimes
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91 Pickup 22RE - still won't start sometimes
Hey all -
So a few weeks ago I posted about my truck not starting every time. It won't turn over at all - all the lights and accessories work (radio, etc.) but when I turn the key there is nothing, no clicking or anything. However, if I let the car sit a minute or push it a bit forward or backwards, it will start.
I replaced the alternator a few weeks ago which seemed to have solved the problem for a while - also replaced the battery since it was at 9 volts - but tonight it wouldn't start again. I tightened the battery posts and checked for loose wires but couldn't find anything. When I was under the car changing out the alternator I noticed that the starter was also new (shiny at least, but definitely seems new). I don't know what else to look for - any ideas? Compression is good - all cylinders at 170 psi.
91 Pickup, Base, 5 speed, 194k miles.
So a few weeks ago I posted about my truck not starting every time. It won't turn over at all - all the lights and accessories work (radio, etc.) but when I turn the key there is nothing, no clicking or anything. However, if I let the car sit a minute or push it a bit forward or backwards, it will start.
I replaced the alternator a few weeks ago which seemed to have solved the problem for a while - also replaced the battery since it was at 9 volts - but tonight it wouldn't start again. I tightened the battery posts and checked for loose wires but couldn't find anything. When I was under the car changing out the alternator I noticed that the starter was also new (shiny at least, but definitely seems new). I don't know what else to look for - any ideas? Compression is good - all cylinders at 170 psi.
91 Pickup, Base, 5 speed, 194k miles.
#2
Just keep flipping the switch. It'll fire up.
Swear a bit.
Tell the truck you love it. Helps.
Or, do this: http://www.lcengineering.com/LCNewsl...elay_Tech.html
Or use the search feature. There is a really nice writeup on here old Yotatech!
Swear a bit.
Tell the truck you love it. Helps.
Or, do this: http://www.lcengineering.com/LCNewsl...elay_Tech.html
Or use the search feature. There is a really nice writeup on here old Yotatech!
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Yes many, many threads about no start issues on here if you search.
What did folks tell you to try in your last thread? What have you tried other than throwing an alternator in? Not much to go on to help you here. Have you figured out if you have a starter relay or not?
What did folks tell you to try in your last thread? What have you tried other than throwing an alternator in? Not much to go on to help you here. Have you figured out if you have a starter relay or not?
#4
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Just keep flipping the switch. It'll fire up.
Swear a bit.
Tell the truck you love it. Helps.
Or, do this: http://www.lcengineering.com/LCNewsl...elay_Tech.html
Or use the search feature. There is a really nice writeup on here old Yotatech!
Swear a bit.
Tell the truck you love it. Helps.
Or, do this: http://www.lcengineering.com/LCNewsl...elay_Tech.html
Or use the search feature. There is a really nice writeup on here old Yotatech!
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People on the other thread were just telling me to look for loose wires and I found none - also checked all my grounds and they were good. How would I go about determining if I have a starter relay?
#6
FWIW the start signal wire connector at the starter on mine doesn't always make a good connection. I just reach in the fender and pull it off the starter and put it on again and boom cranks right up.
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You need clean metal on both sides and a firm connection. Take it apart, scrub the male plug with emery board, tighten the female side with thin pliers or even a screwdriver, ensure the harness clamps are in tact etc...
The know fault with this system design is to much current flowing through the switch behind the lock cylinder. At any given point it can fluctuate between working and not working. The solution is well documented and I'm pretty sure it's even a sticky thread.
Fwiw, I'm pretty electrical savy and been bit by bad grounds..
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#8
This is a good example of confirmation bias, seeing what you want to see. The solenoid energizing wire is fixed to the engine and the starter, it shouldn't make any difference, the end it attaches to the starter and the tie down location move relative (at the same time) with engine vibration..
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I have a single-wire blade-style connector that plugs into the starter for energizing the solenoid. Its next to the heavy gauge hot battery wire terminal on the starter. I haven't owned the truck forever but it appears factory to me. Its in a bad spot that is prone to tire spray so I can see all kinds of crud getting thrown at it. That is the ONLY weak link in my start system. Just sharing what has worked for me 100% of the time when I turn the key and it won't crank. No bias, straight confirmation.
#10
Mine has a brown clip that keeps it attached to the starter. The connector must get fouled or loose over time requiring a quick R&R. I bathed it in dielectric grease last week, hopefully it will get me through the winter without having to kneel on ice to fcuk with it.
#11
Try if this procedure CONSISTENTLY makes starter s0len0id click and starter motor run: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post52367443
Then let us know.
I have a strong feeling that your truck is one of those that Toyota wired wrong ON THE DRAWING TABLE AND AT THE FACTORY. However, it owul dbe difficult for me to ascertain from 450 miles away, pls put me at your truck:
Post picture of your starter relay and location, wire colors that go to each pin, share schematic of your truck.
Then let us know.
I have a strong feeling that your truck is one of those that Toyota wired wrong ON THE DRAWING TABLE AND AT THE FACTORY. However, it owul dbe difficult for me to ascertain from 450 miles away, pls put me at your truck:
Post picture of your starter relay and location, wire colors that go to each pin, share schematic of your truck.
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