88 4Runner "Restoration"
#61
So I have a question, there are a set of factory 4.88s for sale from a 93 runner. I have a 88 with manual hubs, I've read about the ADD stuff and aren't 100% sure how all that crap works. So my question is if I bought the members would they work fine with my year? Any info is appreciated
#64
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Here ya go, Buddy....... Everything you need to know about that system and whether you need to remove it or not..........
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/add/
I had it down, previously... But now I'm knocking my head again trying to figure out what you're into if you're JUST SWAPPING GEARS/DIFF'S... ??? That article is more common to "Guys that are swapping Aisin Hubs ON TO their ADD year rigs"... But I'm sure all you need is in there(Ie; Do I have to remove anything from the front Diff? OR, can I just drop my entire front inner axle, remove my gears and install the 4.88 Gears from a formerly ADD system. RIGHT? HAHAHA. )
Read up and get back to us as to whether you still have questions/concerns, J, ok?
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/add/
I had it down, previously... But now I'm knocking my head again trying to figure out what you're into if you're JUST SWAPPING GEARS/DIFF'S... ??? That article is more common to "Guys that are swapping Aisin Hubs ON TO their ADD year rigs"... But I'm sure all you need is in there(Ie; Do I have to remove anything from the front Diff? OR, can I just drop my entire front inner axle, remove my gears and install the 4.88 Gears from a formerly ADD system. RIGHT? HAHAHA. )
Read up and get back to us as to whether you still have questions/concerns, J, ok?
#66
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So I have a question, there are a set of factory 4.88s for sale from a 93 runner. I have a 88 with manual hubs, I've read about the ADD stuff and aren't 100% sure how all that crap works. So my question is if I bought the members would they work fine with my year? Any info is appreciated
But in all honesty i think you outta just shoot him a PM and ask him yourself with the link to the 3rds you're talking about and give him the specs on your truck. He usually answers my questions within a days time.
#67
Thanks guys, and I dont know who zuk is? Yeah im pretty sure my truck is non add and the ones I was looking at were early 90s so I think they are ADD. But I know nothing.
#68
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Zuk is the guy who created the "Zuk mod" Chef installed his coils or w/e onto his truck. came out great. He works with alot of 4x4 trucks and deals with many diffs, gears, and lockers. If i remember correctly Chef said thats his job.
#69
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www.gearinstalls.com <<<<<<
I know you're not an ADD dude, lol... But I'm wondering if you're donor Diff's are? They will have a vacuum port for the ADD actuator, IIRC... And the problem guys have is that, ...when they have ADD and want Manual Locking Hubs... They slap em on and notice that they can lock them in... But can't UNLOCK them until they back up just a nutmeg! lol. Simliar but not exactly to my old set up(what Redeth still has just for now until he swaps).... We Had/have Auto Locking Hubs...... So when I would want to go Wheeling, I'd just shift into 4WD and drive.. The brake/clutch etc. inside the Auto Locking Hubs(NOT ADD, that's different)... would actuate after a few feet and lock the hubs automatically. To disengage, I would roll backward in reverse after taking it out of 4WD/putting it into 2H... after a few feet(more if they're tired and parts are tweaked in there) it would automatically unlock the hubs. EVEN if you're in 4WD, .....In reverse, the hubs can unlock and you have to roll forward again a couple feet to re-lock them(HUGE flaw in the minds of many 4Wheel Lovers).....CONVENIENT, sure... If you're just needing them for heading up the snowy roads to Big Bear, etc.,... You know, weekend Ski trips, no wheeling really... They're GREAT! Never have to get out, etc. But if you get in a pinch, they can make it tough to get out of in SPECIFIC situations... Like one where you have to rock back and forth to get out of something?
Anyway, read that page and then look at your diffs, Buddy... see if they're Vacuum Actuated or if that's on the actual tubes, etc., and you don't have to worry.
PS> Can you explain..> YOU JUST HAVE THE DIFFS, ...not the whole front axles up to the CV's, right?
I know you're not an ADD dude, lol... But I'm wondering if you're donor Diff's are? They will have a vacuum port for the ADD actuator, IIRC... And the problem guys have is that, ...when they have ADD and want Manual Locking Hubs... They slap em on and notice that they can lock them in... But can't UNLOCK them until they back up just a nutmeg! lol. Simliar but not exactly to my old set up(what Redeth still has just for now until he swaps).... We Had/have Auto Locking Hubs...... So when I would want to go Wheeling, I'd just shift into 4WD and drive.. The brake/clutch etc. inside the Auto Locking Hubs(NOT ADD, that's different)... would actuate after a few feet and lock the hubs automatically. To disengage, I would roll backward in reverse after taking it out of 4WD/putting it into 2H... after a few feet(more if they're tired and parts are tweaked in there) it would automatically unlock the hubs. EVEN if you're in 4WD, .....In reverse, the hubs can unlock and you have to roll forward again a couple feet to re-lock them(HUGE flaw in the minds of many 4Wheel Lovers).....CONVENIENT, sure... If you're just needing them for heading up the snowy roads to Big Bear, etc.,... You know, weekend Ski trips, no wheeling really... They're GREAT! Never have to get out, etc. But if you get in a pinch, they can make it tough to get out of in SPECIFIC situations... Like one where you have to rock back and forth to get out of something?
Anyway, read that page and then look at your diffs, Buddy... see if they're Vacuum Actuated or if that's on the actual tubes, etc., and you don't have to worry.
PS> Can you explain..> YOU JUST HAVE THE DIFFS, ...not the whole front axles up to the CV's, right?
#70
Thanks jmcgin186.
@ Islander- the bumper was built by a guy who makes stuff out of chino, Ca. If you want I can give you his number and name. the only thing is he welds the bumper on so if youre not down with that I wouldnt go to him but other than that he'll build whatever you want pretty much if he can do it.
@RAD4runner- heres a link to where i bought the turn signals from, and they are 2 1/2 by 1 inches. http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index...ignal-kit.html
@ Islander- the bumper was built by a guy who makes stuff out of chino, Ca. If you want I can give you his number and name. the only thing is he welds the bumper on so if youre not down with that I wouldnt go to him but other than that he'll build whatever you want pretty much if he can do it.
@RAD4runner- heres a link to where i bought the turn signals from, and they are 2 1/2 by 1 inches. http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index...ignal-kit.html
TIA,
RAD
#71
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Hey do you mind giving me the phone number to the guy who did your bumper.
I wanna see if he is able to create something similar to the Warn or CBI bumper. and how much it would cost to do more or less. If you have a cell phone number that'd be great so i can just text him an example of what i want.
I wanna see if he is able to create something similar to the Warn or CBI bumper. and how much it would cost to do more or less. If you have a cell phone number that'd be great so i can just text him an example of what i want.
#72
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Richard...... I think he pops up on Craigslist in 'Auto Parts' when you type in "Off Road Bumper"(maybe focus more than I did on the 'inlandempire' area... even though that's all that seemingly popped up, lol)>>> .....
Here's one group of dudes.... (near Temecula)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3237422512.html
Another guy on losangelescraigslist...... (Escondido)....
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3208282987.html
This is the guy that I thought he was talking about, Richard.... Was in Pamona(maybe still is) and has new facility in La Verne..........
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3220663496.html
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3220654341.html
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3186684402.html
Hopefully JCM will toss it up soon, lol. Honestly? You know there are guys most likely within 5 minutes of your residence that would LOVE the work and that have done bending/welding/plate work for years! COMPETITION IS HERE, BABY! lol. I got an angle on my welding and bumper work.... But it's a favor kinda thing, so I'll have to ask him what he thinks, ok?
Here's one group of dudes.... (near Temecula)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3237422512.html
Another guy on losangelescraigslist...... (Escondido)....
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3208282987.html
This is the guy that I thought he was talking about, Richard.... Was in Pamona(maybe still is) and has new facility in La Verne..........
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3220663496.html
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3220654341.html
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3186684402.html
Hopefully JCM will toss it up soon, lol. Honestly? You know there are guys most likely within 5 minutes of your residence that would LOVE the work and that have done bending/welding/plate work for years! COMPETITION IS HERE, BABY! lol. I got an angle on my welding and bumper work.... But it's a favor kinda thing, so I'll have to ask him what he thinks, ok?
#73
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Yea I guess these guys would do just fine. I'm gonna shoot them a text and see if they think they can pull it off. Then compare the price difference between theirs and the CBI bumper. I really really like the look of the CBI and Warn bumpers. Hopefully one of these guys can pull off the whole job for about $300. That'd be nice. Get some winch and light mounts on it too.
#75
Here he is, just text him a picture. http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3175826661.html
#76
Hey everyone, after 4 and a half years its finally happened. I got a lift for my truck
Got it off a guy who pulled it off a runner he bought, its all OME except the torsion bars which are from downey. Im gonna try to put it on this weekend.
Got it off a guy who pulled it off a runner he bought, its all OME except the torsion bars which are from downey. Im gonna try to put it on this weekend.
#77
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Nice! Lucky you I wish I had all my stuff already. Soon I'll catch up to you guys lol
And all are old man emu. Those are sweet shocks. Mark has some on his ride and they feel great.
And all are old man emu. Those are sweet shocks. Mark has some on his ride and they feel great.
#78
TIA
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HOLY SMACKEREL! THAT IS a good deal, my Cali-brother! lol..... That kit INCLUDING the T-bars is around 800$, new, IIRC.... 400$ for the shocks.... 250$ for the leaf packs..... ???$ on the T-bars.... Can't remember, it's on the ARB site(or resellers, I should say, like rockyroadoutfitters.com .... whom I will NEVER use again, lol) ... Maybe 150$?
CONGRATZ! Gonna ride LOTSSSSSSSS nicer!
I'm researching a leaf pack swap right now.
CONGRATZ! Gonna ride LOTSSSSSSSS nicer!
I'm researching a leaf pack swap right now.