22re broken timing chain guide
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22re broken timing chain guide
Just have a quick question for everyone. I am in the process of of replacing my headgasket and on assembly I was torquing down the cam bolt for the timing chain and some how while doing it I hear a snapping sound. I realized that I broke the top piece to the passenger side timing chain guide some how (it was getting dark out and hard to see how or what I did wrong). It is an engbldr timing set so the driver side guide is metal backed and the pass side is plastic. I know that there is not any tension on the passenger side guide. My question is this, it is my daily driver and I need to get it done this weekend, how important is the top part of the guide, can I drive it and fix it later or should I tear it back down. I probably know the answer I just don't want to accept it.
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This is why I suggest saying 'left' or 'right' ... along with saying "when viewed from in front of the truck looking towards the rear", or something similar.
Our trucks are shipped around the world, and the passenger side is not on the same side of the truck everywhere in the world. On the other hand, I know that the engnblr kit has a metal backed guide on the right (viewed from the front) and is plastic on the left (viewed from the front).
Either way, uncontrolled slap in the chain will cause accellerated wear everywhere else... and a worn guide should be replaced.
Our trucks are shipped around the world, and the passenger side is not on the same side of the truck everywhere in the world. On the other hand, I know that the engnblr kit has a metal backed guide on the right (viewed from the front) and is plastic on the left (viewed from the front).
Either way, uncontrolled slap in the chain will cause accellerated wear everywhere else... and a worn guide should be replaced.
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Passenger side is the long one. I went out and looked at it again and it only broke off the two tabs that kind of hug the chain that keep it in alignment at the top, closest to the cam sprocket. The bottom portion is intact and looks fine. Ask me how it happened I don't know.
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It's the left side that wears through the timing cover and spews antifreeze into the oil.Even so tightening the bolt should have broken the right(tensioner) side.
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left or right from the drivers seat is not the same as left or right when you're standing in front of the engine looking down and getting ready to work on it. I guess, working on it, the exhaust manifold is on the left then? Tell that to the service manual.
and I will argue that the 'long' side of the timing chain is on the right when you're standing in front of the engine... on the left you have a tensioner that takes up slack.
and I will argue that the 'long' side of the timing chain is on the right when you're standing in front of the engine... on the left you have a tensioner that takes up slack.
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... get my point? Where do you work on the engine from? which way are you looking?
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If you look at the truck the way abecedarian does, the left front wheel and the left rear wheel are on two different sides. (standing in front of the truck and standing behind the truck) Anybody that works on cars for a living (mechanic, body, anything) tells you left and right from the drivers seat.
If you look at the truck the way abecedarian does, the left front wheel and the left rear wheel are on two different sides. (standing in front of the truck and standing behind the truck) Anybody that works on cars for a living (mechanic, body, anything) tells you left and right from the drivers seat.
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Thanks guys I did not mean to turn this into which side is what thread, I should have described it more accurately. The guide in question is on the intake manifold side of a 22re motor, if sitting in the driver seat it is the right side, if facing the motor the left side. I believe that I will finish up the project, see if the tchain is slapping, if not run it for another 100k and fix it later.
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But to get back to your question, I would not run it like that. I have had 2 different 22r's leave me stranded, and both of them was because they tossed the chain. Not to mention, if you are in there, you should just do it right anyways or you will spend twice as much time doing it again later on.
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