22r w/NO BARK -- Gears or Bolt-on's?
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thing to remember is this a 4 cylinder engine no matter what you do and how much $$$$ you spend your not going to gain a lot more horse power .
Then again these 22 r series engines get the most bang for the buck in head work look at a engine builder head .
With those tires you do need to regear to get the ratio down to around where it would be with stock tires
Then again these 22 r series engines get the most bang for the buck in head work look at a engine builder head .
With those tires you do need to regear to get the ratio down to around where it would be with stock tires
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thing to remember is this a 4 cylinder engine no matter what you do and how much $$$$ you spend your not going to gain a lot more horse power .
Then again these 22 r series engines get the most bang for the buck in head work look at a engine builder head .
With those tires you do need to regear to get the ratio down to around where it would be with stock tires
Then again these 22 r series engines get the most bang for the buck in head work look at a engine builder head .
With those tires you do need to regear to get the ratio down to around where it would be with stock tires
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What about dropping down to a smaller tire, since you don't do much off-roading? Like a 235/75/15?
You would see an increase in power, driveability, and likely an increase in fuel economy as well.
You could always add an electric locker out of a Tacoma if you wanted to make it more capable off-road.
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why dont you go to pick n pull and pull the rear third, and front axle from a 90-95 runner with 4.56s or the stock 4.88 shouldnt cost much more than $300. I regeard my 85 pickup with two 4runner thirds 4.88s. I think you would be able to handle it if you read about it first. then with the money you saved you can buy a header!
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Thanks for the advice! Still debating on what to do? I think I'm leaning towards the 4.56's instead of the 4.88's since I'm running 31's.
Brindlepitt22 where you happy with the 4.88's? What size tire were you running?
Brindlepitt22 where you happy with the 4.88's? What size tire were you running?
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I am very happy with my 4.88 I can finaly hold 5th! up hills! with 33s, about 3000 rpms at 70mph. but for you running 31s if you are going the pick n pull route I would go 4.56s But if you are going to have a shop do it or buying thirds somewere else I would definetly go 4.88. It would be a major waste of money to have a shop put in 4.56s. wich ever one you go with you will be VERY happy, compared to buying a header. After I put on my header and 2 1/4 pipe all the way back the gains were a joke compared to regearing. So regear First, good luck!
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I am very happy with my 4.88 I can finaly hold 5th! up hills! with 33s, about 3000 rpms at 70mph. but for you running 31s if you are going the pick n pull route I would go 4.56s But if you are going to have a shop do it or buying thirds somewere else I would definetly go 4.88. It would be a major waste of money to have a shop put in 4.56s. wich ever one you go with you will be VERY happy, compared to buying a header. After I put on my header and 2 1/4 pipe all the way back the gains were a joke compared to regearing. So regear First, good luck!
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Teuf- got any pics of your chrome bumper/grill? Mine came with black and I painted the front and rear bumper a dark gray color several years ago. Been thinking of putting chrome on the front and rear. Are your door & tailgate handles chrome? What about the trim around your windshield? Might go for a different look...
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Check out Zuk at
gearinstall.com
He is the guru of gears and there is so much info there you maybe able to do your own gears after spending a few hours there lol but really everything you want to know is there.
gearinstall.com
He is the guru of gears and there is so much info there you maybe able to do your own gears after spending a few hours there lol but really everything you want to know is there.
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Thanks for your help
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FROM WABFAB'S SITE
Gear set's
Set 4cyl 4.88 - $175 + $25 S/H x 2
install kit's
4cyl - $99 + $15 S/H x2
Solid Pinion Spacer Kit,
4cyl - $19 + $5 S/H
I bet if you talked to BRAIN he would set you up a deal on the shipping as a package deal and maybe even a package deal on the gears and install kits.
Then pull your 3rd's send them to ZUK and have him set them up and ship them back to you and reinstall them yourself you get top quality installs and still come in under what the local shop quoted you.
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I'd say get your gears and install kit's from WABFAB get him to ship them to ZUK, pull your 3rd's put them in bucket's and ship them to ZUK have him set them up and ship them back to you and then you will know they are set up correctly and it should come in somewhere around $6-$800 bucks total I would think.
FROM WABFAB'S SITE
Gear set's
Set 4cyl 4.88 - $175 + $25 S/H x 2
install kit's
4cyl - $99 + $15 S/H x2
Solid Pinion Spacer Kit,
4cyl - $19 + $5 S/H
I bet if you talked to BRAIN he would set you up a deal on the shipping as a package deal and maybe even a package deal on the gears and install kits.
Then pull your 3rd's send them to ZUK and have him set them up and ship them back to you and reinstall them yourself you get top quality installs and still come in under what the local shop quoted you.
FROM WABFAB'S SITE
Gear set's
Set 4cyl 4.88 - $175 + $25 S/H x 2
install kit's
4cyl - $99 + $15 S/H x2
Solid Pinion Spacer Kit,
4cyl - $19 + $5 S/H
I bet if you talked to BRAIN he would set you up a deal on the shipping as a package deal and maybe even a package deal on the gears and install kits.
Then pull your 3rd's send them to ZUK and have him set them up and ship them back to you and reinstall them yourself you get top quality installs and still come in under what the local shop quoted you.
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im just curious how come you cant remove the 3rd member is it the lack of skill the write tools a place to do it. just get a chilton its really not that bad. thats how i started, i didnt know what i was doing and my first big project was a head gasket and that was big to me lol . now im doing pretty much everything, full engine rebuilds to axel swaps, just follow the manual exactly you will be fine
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yea i say get out there and do it yourself..then send the thirds to Zuk..theres nothing like the satisfaction of doing something yourself
that's why i'm rebuilding my 3VZ turd LOL
that's why i'm rebuilding my 3VZ turd LOL