22r w/NO BARK -- Gears or Bolt-on's?
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22r w/NO BARK -- Gears or Bolt-on's?
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My '86 with a 22r/5 spd/4WD needs more power! I've been driving it since '92 and put 31 x 10.50's on it in '93. I know it's just a 4 cyl but I'd like to at least have the ABILITY to get a speeding ticket on the highway!
I've done several searches and found out some guys have noticed gains from re-gearing. Used this site http://www.brian894x4.com/Gearratiosanddiffs.html to figure out I have 4.11's (original owner) from the factory. Some have gone with 4.56 and others 4.88 with the 31's. My question is which gears would I get the most bang for my buck with? I'm not much of an Off-Roader, just would like to be quicker from the start and have more acceleration on the highway.
If gearing is not the best way to go, I've also looked into getting some bolt-ons... header, cat, exhaust system, K & N w/Weber carb.
Any suggestions??? Can't afford to do it all but have a little saved up.
Thanks for helping the newbie...
My '86 with a 22r/5 spd/4WD needs more power! I've been driving it since '92 and put 31 x 10.50's on it in '93. I know it's just a 4 cyl but I'd like to at least have the ABILITY to get a speeding ticket on the highway!
I've done several searches and found out some guys have noticed gains from re-gearing. Used this site http://www.brian894x4.com/Gearratiosanddiffs.html to figure out I have 4.11's (original owner) from the factory. Some have gone with 4.56 and others 4.88 with the 31's. My question is which gears would I get the most bang for my buck with? I'm not much of an Off-Roader, just would like to be quicker from the start and have more acceleration on the highway.
If gearing is not the best way to go, I've also looked into getting some bolt-ons... header, cat, exhaust system, K & N w/Weber carb.
Any suggestions??? Can't afford to do it all but have a little saved up.
Thanks for helping the newbie...
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When you added the 31'' tires you lost alot right there, and the only way to get the power back that you lost is to regear, i would go with 4.88 gears, they will help out alot, next would be a header and complete new exhaust 2'' or 2 1/4'' in size. The gears and exhaust will help alot, but if you want to spend more money then you can buy a cam. A 22RE will never be a power house, but every little bit helps.
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Thanks myyota! I checked with a shop in town and the guy said it would be $1200 to do both front and back. He uses Yukon gears. Does that sound about right?
What kind of gains should I expect? Right now I barely reach 65 mph on the highway that is if my speedometer is correct. Was driving on the highway next to a buddy the other day and mine was 5 mph slow? If I re-gear will that correct my speedometer and odometer?
What kind of gains should I expect? Right now I barely reach 65 mph on the highway that is if my speedometer is correct. Was driving on the highway next to a buddy the other day and mine was 5 mph slow? If I re-gear will that correct my speedometer and odometer?
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The free flowing exhaust is definitely a good thing, 2 1/4 with a high flow muffler sounds good and frees up some power. Don't get a weber carb though, they are finicky and not worth it IMO. 2Gnarly just did a stacked air filter mod on his 22R, looks like a great idea to me
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Think the gears run around $200ish? Should the labor really cost $1000? Guy says he's done a lot of work on late '80's Toyota's and it should only take him a day. Wish I could do this one myself...
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The free flowing exhaust is definitely a good thing, 2 1/4 with a high flow muffler sounds good and frees up some power. Don't get a weber carb though, they are finicky and not worth it IMO. 2Gnarly just did a stacked air filter mod on his 22R, looks like a great idea to me
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looks like i nice truck in your avatar! you should regear to 4.88's and grab a cam, header, and intake. thats what i am doing and from what i hear it will wake the motor up alot. oyah welcome to yotatech!
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I've never used a weber, It just seems to me that the general consensus on this site is that the best carb for the 22R is teh Aisin one from the factory, they are very reliable and perform well.
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Please post when you do your gears, cam, headers and intake. I'm looking at doing most of the same stuff and was wondering how much of a performace increase I will really notice. Yukon gears, no cam plans, LC header and K & N intake. You?
Why the 4.88's over 4.56's?
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yah i will post when i do all that stuff.
i want 4.88's because i want 33's until sas but i have too wait untill my 31's wear out.
4.56's are perfect with 31's but if you ever plan for 33's the 4.88's are your best shot so thats why i want 4.88's.
yah i will post when i do all that stuff.
i want 4.88's because i want 33's until sas but i have too wait untill my 31's wear out.
4.56's are perfect with 31's but if you ever plan for 33's the 4.88's are your best shot so thats why i want 4.88's.
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Definatly go with the 4.88's. You can save yourself some money and take the thirdmembers out yourself and take them into the driveline shop. Shop around. You should be able to find someone to do your gears for alot cheaper.
I wouldn't trade my weber for anything. Big increase in power, and fuel mileage. They are fineky sometimes but are also very simple to tune and understand. Add a header and exhuast along with a weber and you will have plenty of power. Personally I would go with a weber and header long before I regeared.
I wouldn't trade my weber for anything. Big increase in power, and fuel mileage. They are fineky sometimes but are also very simple to tune and understand. Add a header and exhuast along with a weber and you will have plenty of power. Personally I would go with a weber and header long before I regeared.
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Definatly go with the 4.88's. You can save yourself some money and take the thirdmembers out yourself and take them into the driveline shop. Shop around. You should be able to find someone to do your gears for alot cheaper.
I wouldn't trade my weber for anything. Big increase in power, and fuel mileage. They are fineky sometimes but are also very simple to tune and understand. Add a header and exhuast along with a weber and you will have plenty of power. Personally I would go with a weber and header long before I regeared.
I wouldn't trade my weber for anything. Big increase in power, and fuel mileage. They are fineky sometimes but are also very simple to tune and understand. Add a header and exhuast along with a weber and you will have plenty of power. Personally I would go with a weber and header long before I regeared.
I keep going back and forth on the regearing and bolt-on's. Was told that I wouldn't notice much of a gain if I did the Carb & bolt-on's without regearing? Keep in mind- more of a DD than Off-Roader...
You like the 32/36 better or 38? Is it necessary to get a new downdraft intake manifold with a new Carb?
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Anyone else have any feedback on the price to re-gear? I called a couple more places today and didn't have much luck finding anyone that does it, waiting on a bid from 1 more place. $1200 sounds like it way to much... haven't done this before, just don't want/can't afford to get screwed!