85 22re pickup disappearing coolant?
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85 22re pickup disappearing coolant?
So I am stumped on this one now. Every once in a while when i start my truck it seems like its running rough but after a second it goes away and idles fine seems to only do it when cold. But for those few seconds its pretty sputtery.
Now on to the next thing, one day i was driving down the road and i noticed my oil was running 5 degrees Centigrade hotter than usual. So i checked the coolant and it was just over a liter low. I filled it back up and about a week or so later its gone again the same amount.
I checked the spark plugs and they are all good I don't seem to be burning coolant in any way. No abnormal smoke other then the usual cold weather steam. There isn't any coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant. There aren't any leaks in the system, good cap, good dual stage t-stat, and good normal running temps. aside from when it gets low.
What could be going on? is it somehow burning a little bit while driving? or is it slowly leaking into the cylinders when parked and burning it off quickly? the exhaust looks and smells normal for winter.
Now on to the next thing, one day i was driving down the road and i noticed my oil was running 5 degrees Centigrade hotter than usual. So i checked the coolant and it was just over a liter low. I filled it back up and about a week or so later its gone again the same amount.
I checked the spark plugs and they are all good I don't seem to be burning coolant in any way. No abnormal smoke other then the usual cold weather steam. There isn't any coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant. There aren't any leaks in the system, good cap, good dual stage t-stat, and good normal running temps. aside from when it gets low.
What could be going on? is it somehow burning a little bit while driving? or is it slowly leaking into the cylinders when parked and burning it off quickly? the exhaust looks and smells normal for winter.
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I noticed about 30k miles ago that my head gasket was starting to leak coolant down the side of the block. I never fixed it and lately my truck has started doing exactly what you are describing. Sometimes when I start it, usually when cold but not always, it will run rough. It sounds like it is running on 3 cylinders for a minute or so and has a noticable miss when revving the engine. I never see any smoke or coolant in the oil, but it does use coolant.
Small head gasket leaks can be difficult to detect sometimes. You can also try opening your radiator cap, starting your truck and see if little bubbles slowly come out. If you have access to a an exhaust sniffer, see if it detects and hydrocarbons near your open radiator cap. I have seen a few 22Rs (including my own) start leaking from the headgasket on the outside of the block on the exhaust side of the #1 cylinder, so that is a good place to check if you suspect a head gasket.
Small head gasket leaks can be difficult to detect sometimes. You can also try opening your radiator cap, starting your truck and see if little bubbles slowly come out. If you have access to a an exhaust sniffer, see if it detects and hydrocarbons near your open radiator cap. I have seen a few 22Rs (including my own) start leaking from the headgasket on the outside of the block on the exhaust side of the #1 cylinder, so that is a good place to check if you suspect a head gasket.
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do a simple coolant pressure test and leave it pressurised for a good while at around 15 psi.if you then start it up and it stumbles even the slightest bit,you have a head gasket/surface problem.this stumble is caused by a small bit of coolant in the combustion chamber.i learned this the hard way when i was younger,replacing the head and head gasket only to find out i had a block that wasnt flat!
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do a simple coolant pressure test and leave it pressurised for a good while at around 15 psi.if you then start it up and it stumbles even the slightest bit,you have a head gasket/surface problem.this stumble is caused by a small bit of coolant in the combustion chamber.i learned this the hard way when i was younger,replacing the head and head gasket only to find out i had a block that wasnt flat!
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my 4runner did this a couple months ago and it ended up being a split in the head gasket and water would seek into the cylinder due to it being under pressure, my rig would sputter and want to die for about 4 sec. then warm up the rest fine,
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unfortunately it was a small headgasket leak but i did replace it before it did any damage just for good measure i used arp headbolts this time around and she has been running great for 20k although its in the shop now getting a new rear axle housing. i hope your luck is better than mine just make sure you monitor your oil if you continue to drive it
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unfortunately it was a small headgasket leak but i did replace it before it did any damage just for good measure i used arp headbolts this time around and she has been running great for 20k although its in the shop now getting a new rear axle housing. i hope your luck is better than mine just make sure you monitor your oil if you continue to drive it
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated
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Thanks for the quick response Brotha!!!!! I've been wrecking my brain on this one and you've helped me solve it! I was hoping it wasn't going to be the HG but with 298K on her it was bound to happen. Just found this leak on the engine block side, Cylinder #2. Looks like coolant to me. Damn!
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated
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