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Old 04-19-2012 | 03:11 PM
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85 22re automatic totally guttless

I have a 85 toyota with 22re and the 4 speed automatic. The truck has no power on take off. I'm trying to figure out if thats just the nature of these automatics or if something is wrong. Is there any differance between the moters for the 5-speed to the auto, because my moter came out of a 95 4runner with a 5-speed.
Old 04-19-2012 | 03:27 PM
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From what I understand the 22re's with the A340 auto behind it is pretty gutless.
Old 04-19-2012 | 03:31 PM
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Do you have bigger than stock tires on it?
Old 04-19-2012 | 03:38 PM
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just 31 i wouldnt think they would slow it down to much. i should just swap in the manual i have from an 86 i tore apart. thats the plan just hoped to run the auto for awhile while i was being lazy
Old 04-19-2012 | 03:44 PM
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You'd be surprised how much 31s an automatic and a tired motor would make your truck a dog.
Old 04-19-2012 | 03:45 PM
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Is it a stock 22re? Cam, headers, etc?
Old 04-19-2012 | 04:27 PM
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its just stock i bought the truck 4 years ago it was suppose to just need a headed gasket. found out the head had a spun cam bearing and the crank had a spun bearing started a rebuild and found out all 3 of the other 22re heads where cracked. so i found this moter to just throw in till i can get a head and finish the rebuild i already have an engbldr crawler cam and i hope to throw a header and a heavier flywheel when i install the new moter

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Old 04-19-2012 | 04:28 PM
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Even with stock 28 inch tires, 5 speed tranny, headers, 2 1/4 inch exhaust, and 1200 miles on a rebuilt engine, my 87' 4runner is still pretty gutless. Sorry, don't think there's anything wrong with your truck.
Old 04-19-2012 | 04:48 PM
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my 86 had the 22r with a 5speed and 35s so i understand these trucks are guttless but if this is normal i don't see how the auto was ever sold
i got tired of it and put a 283 chevy v8 in the 86 i accully got better fuel economy with the v8 then the 4cyl go figure

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Old 04-19-2012 | 06:44 PM
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Unlock your hubs, put it in 4low (2low) punch it, and when you hit 4th throw it into 2wd and continue driving. If it has the speed of a normal car by doing that, it's fine. If you have a 2wd I don't know then...
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how bad is the t-case gonna grind doing that
Old 04-19-2012 | 07:11 PM
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It probably won't grind. It'll just explode.... I don't recommend high speed shifts on the gear driven cases. Toyota says something like 5mph or less to shift between 2wd, 4wd, high-lo. Chain drive cases are much easier to shift into 4hi at 30-50mph.
Old 04-19-2012 | 07:40 PM
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is the tcase behind the auto gear driven or chain i know the 5 speed is gear but i thought i heard the auto tcase was a much weaker then the 5speed
Old 04-19-2012 | 07:46 PM
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Yea I put 31's on my 5 speed and it was way slower had to do gears ASAP! Couldn't imagine an auto stock w 31's ):
Old 04-19-2012 | 07:50 PM
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my buddy ran 36s on stock gears on a 22re with a manual trans, he said it wasnt bad, 12 mpg and never hit 5th gear, but he got the job one and it was still a monster in the mud, what do you get for mpgs? maybe full tune up time? seafoam it? youd be amazed on how much seafoam and a good tune can do, also check your timing
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Gears dont make that big of a difference in mpgs. Its the fact that its the auto.

I ran my 83 with 35x14.5 boggers (super heavy tire) and i still got 19-20 mpg
but it was slow. Not too terrible, but there is NO using 4hi.
Old 04-19-2012 | 08:54 PM
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its got new plugs and i have fogged the moter twice with seafoam its getting better. i think im gonna just break down and swap in my 5 speed. anyone want to buy an auto shifts great. no slipping
Old 04-19-2012 | 08:56 PM
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Both my auto trucks (a340h, one a 22re and the other a 3vz) both syncro themselves before shifting from low to high....

As for my 88 (3vz with the r151 5 speed and vf1a chain tcase) you need to rev match that one to make the shift from low to high.

We've been doing it for years trying to get that extra umphh off the line, given it was a farm trim and we just beat it and raced it arous not caring if it blew up or not. But now 5 years later it's still going strog and I use that trick whenever I need to get up to speed real quick
Old 04-19-2012 | 08:57 PM
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hahaha. Not a good thread to try to sell it in lol.

Do you know what gears you have?

5 speeds are alot better!
Old 04-19-2012 | 08:59 PM
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Ughh, sorry. I'm using the mobile ap and I don't know how to edit my posts....dang autospell or whatever it's called


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