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Hey guys,

I've lurked on here forever and gained a lot of invaluable advice in the past from reading just about everything here; and felt it was finally my time to contribute. My grandfather passed away, and this truck is my tribute to him.

So I inherited the 85 and knew I had my work cut out for me. The 22RE engine has about 300,000 KMS on in.

My original intention was to do a straight frame swap because it was swiss cheesed from the elements up here (see my previous posts about the 99 taco and the frame recall buyback) So I located a donor and decided to get to work.

The frame I bought came with a 22R engine mounted; but was promised it was indeed it was an identical 85 FRAME (turns out it may not be... later on that)

My grandfather's 1989 Cressida was also at my disposal, and having owned a 5vz-fe and a 3vz-fe I knew what power those engines put out and wasnt willing to put up with the lesser 22-re.. So that was how I decided on the 5M-GE swap. It wasn't going to cost me anything and the gains would definatley be worth the pains.

Truly my intention for writing this is to complete the HUGE holes in the other engine swap writeups that are STILL referenced now. Lets be honest; there are some glaring holes in all the existing writeups. I aim to fix that. Until I fix that beginning to end; I'd love to grab some help/suggestions from you guys here who may have already done or completed this project.. or just know more than I do.

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This has been over the last month working on weekends to complete what I can in my spare time. The Engine I'm working with from the Cressida had aboyt 180000kms (half what the 22RE had) Condition of the engine was running when last turned over by my uncle (god only knows how long that may have actually been)

Regardless I got a 5M-GE for free and might as well use it.

Now ive done a BUTTLOAD of research on all required to do what I'd like to complete. Engine came out of the cressida in about an hour (had a front end loader haha!!)

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With Cressida engine out I was sure to grab the ECU with entire harness on both sides of the firewall out to ensure I had everything I would need. So I started on pulling the 22-RE engine. Pretty easy to pull out as far as projects go. Disconnect the wires, undo the bolts, and yank it out!!

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So heres where my frustration starts to mount. I pull the engine mounts from frame and block and am told NOT JUST IN PERSON but by the interwebs that this is a direct bolt in.. it SURE AS HELL ISNT.

Although the bellhousing may mate up to tranny. The motor Mounts are a different story. If you havent done this swap before; do us both a favour. I've already read whatever you plan on linking. Heres the reality. Heres the 22re's motor mounts side by side with the 5M-GE's .. they dont ˟˟˟˟˟ing line up at all.
Opposite to what this guys says http://bb.bc4x4.com/showthread.php?138093-5MGE-Swap

Reading post #14 he make a very INCORRECT statement saying this is a straight drop in.. its not.

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Here's the 22-RE s engine mount on the left and the 5M-GE on the right. and then sitting on top of each other... I should have measured the difference between each side, but not sure how anyone tries to pass these ˟˟˟˟˟ing things off as almost the same size.

So suggeestions on the motor mounts? I guess I could get the original ones filled in and extended...

Also read this from another forum
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...check-out.html Post #1 says he removed the metal parts from the 5M? its press fitted on and what looks like welded. This sounds like a load of bull˟˟˟˟.. am I mistaken here?

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Also wondering .. I know the clearance once mounted will require a body lift. Any suggestions? what have you guys or someone used in the past to make sure the 5M-GE fits? I've been looking at

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pr...ckup/year/1985 would that be enough?

I know id need to drop the tranny in addition but am trying to focus the most important battles to win one thing at a time

wavekayaker

I've never done a 5mge swap, but I seem to remember that the motor mounts needed were from a 5mge Supra. Not sure if they are differant from the Cressida, but worth a check.

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interesting piece of information. most logical assumption is that all the 5m-ge mounts are the same..

rokblok

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I don't see what the issue is with the mounts. I see the wider base, but that's just to the frame. So if you use the 22RE mounts, so they line up to your frame, and drill a new hole in the 5M mounts cover, to accommodate the 22RE dowel, it seems like it would work. What am I missing?

nothingbetter

what do you need a body lift for? you have a solid axle so you have a bunch more clearance. My 7m fits with no body lift and theres a lot more stuff under the hood. Is the oil pan the problem or the hood?

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ROK i gotta say man, out of ALL the ˟˟˟˟ I've read about dropping the 5mge in NONE has ever said anything about having to drilll the mounts.. I dont MIND having to drill it .. I've just never seen anything ever saying on saying thats what you actually NEED to do. Am I that muck ˟˟˟˟ing mentally damaged?

It was my understanding that REGARDLESS of SFA or IFS that you needed a body lift to make the 5Mge FIT.

Can anyone actually CONFIRM this/? I need to know by this Friday

rokblok

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"Motor mounts
This is a pretty easy set up as well. I took the metal part of the 5mge motor mounts and combined it with the rubber part of the 22re motor mounts. All you need to do is drill a ¼ inch hole for the 22re’s dowel to mate to the 5mge metal part."

Taken from your link on Pirate.