I have a question on a winch:

I have a 1983 short bed with 31" ice and mud tires in 7.00 x 15LT.

I have come to the opportunity to trade two jerry cans (I have 5 USMC and Blitz cans) for a 1500 pound winch.

Is a 1500 pound winch strong enough to pull me out of a situation where I actually get stuck?

Also I am trying to find more of the type of tires that I have on the back as they do indeed have a surprising amount of traction (shockingly improved from the 33" mud slingers I had on it, they are 7.00 x 15LT 31"s, sounds crazy no?) and they are over 30 years old and still have 4/5ths of the tread still on them and they don't give a rip, even in this New Mexico weather. If anyone has some near Abq or knows where to get them give me a shot I will pay good. (sorry I have to mention this everywhere)

 

There is stuck where you just can`t get traction !!

There is stuck where the truck is sitting on the frame buried in mud , snow what ever.

Most would run a 8000 pound winch I use a 9,500 pound winch

A 1500 pound winch sounds like a ATV/4 wheeler winch.

It might work to move your truck on the flat concrete in the shop.

In a real world ooops I am stuck it most likely would burn out before the truck moved .

Yes indeed I doubt you will find those tires unless some tire dealer has them back in the corner and forgot about them. Any Mom and Pop tire dealers left give them a call .

It can`t hurt.

Extraction and recovery is a huge other topic .

 

Thanks

I want a pull-out-of-caliché type of deal.

 

What I have heard from my 4 wheeling friends with more experience is that you want a which twice the weight of the truck. We have someone around here with a samurai with a 4500lbs winch and it does allright, if he is really stuck he puts on a pulley to double the power, which is what you could do (it's like de-gearing a winch) but in my opinion a 1500lbs would only help if you are slightly stuck on flat ground. My friends trail samurai has an 8000lbs and sometimes it's not enough he needs to use a pulley.

 

You could get my truck stuck in caliché and a 25,000 pound winch couldn't get it out. Here in NM we have mud which can be composed of commonly more than 80% volcanic ash. That's why I insist upon having 7.00 x 15LT mud tires as the bigger mud tires get stuck so bad that the engine stalls trying to turn them even in low gears. I have seen big Chevys and Fords with 400+ HP stall out with the big mud tires in their low gears it is so bad. Here In New Mexico we give a new meaning to "stuck" as the trucks that get stuck in that s*** have to be left out until the caliché dries and have to be dug out with mining picks and shovels by hand as backhoes can't even dig through the stuff. When you see quicksand in the movies you know it doesn't actually act like that but caliché acts worse and at the same time is denser than corn starch. It literally will suck your truck down. If you get into it you just have to down shift and slam the gas and pray to sweet Jesus that you get out, because if you do get stuck you'd more likely get home faster with a broken transmission and no clutch than what you are now with a non-broken vehicle. I have seen jeeps and Toyotas and all types of other trucks get their axles shredded off and their frames and bodies get twisted into unrecognizable masses by trying to be pulled out of that crap.

Luckily most of the caliché is in very hard if not impossible to reach areas and getting into it that bad isn't too common. Most of the time when someone gets stuck in it it's the real docile kind of field caliché and it usually is just bad enough to need a winch or another truck that is on dry ground do drag you out. But if you high-center on it, which is easy oftentimes mind you, you're screwed. But if you're ever waaaaay out in the NM desert, especially near one of the many hundreds of volcanoes or some form of water source and you see a mud puddle, stay the heck out of it because once you go in, you're not coming out again.

I even saw one guy successfully get out by being towed because it tore off his truck bed and doors and ripped off all of his body panels which freed the skeleton of his truck and allowed it to slide out like the butterfly version of death out of his twisted cocoon.

Pretty much the off road equivalent of a glue trap. Stryders don't stand a chance. Stay the ever-loving hell away from caliché.

However upon remembering that I've seen this happen I feel pretty stupid for even asking if a 1500 pound winch will work because of course it can't.

 

8K is a pretty common size to mount on a 79-83 truck.
6K as a minimum

 

Think the only reason guys run 1,500lbs winches is to suck down axles. Could be great for loading a quad in the bed.

Winches are a balance, I too used the X2 the weight of your rig. Though may make sense to go even higher but now the electrical requirements go up so it takes longer to winch out. As you have to pause winching to let alt catch the battery back up. Nothing worse than killing your battery while stuck.

Cool tires. Have had buddies tell me that some areas you want narrow tires for mud vrs wides. Super swamper makes some and sure some other companies do too but prolly have to settle for bias pry instead of radials.