I don't know you, but I'll respect you. You're welcome to your opinion.

I'm calm and level headed b/c I know that the things being said, however harsh, have some truth. I'm not spinning lies, and I certainly don't get off on that.

I like how you make a disclaimer that this MAY NOT be what's going on in my situation, and then you remark sarcastically immediately after.

My first instinct is to go on a rant, and tell you off b/c I know the truth, and so on. But, contrarly to popular opinion as of late... I do possess character, and it's not in my character to yell at someone who is expressing his god given right to his own opinion. I may disagree with what you say, but I'd defend to the death your right to say it.

That said, my retort:

I'd never " get off " on losing two good friends. I'd never " get off " on having my father's health at risk. I don't " get off " on being financially strapped, and having people bad mouth me on a forum.

None of what has happened or been said thus far, is ANYTHING I'd " get off " on. Period.

It seems the point of your " observation " was to do nothing than to state the obvious, and to stir the pot, if nothing else. Please man, if that's all you're trying to do. Stop.

If I've misunderstood, then I apologize.

 

So, are you mad because what I said applies to you or because I'd have the audacity to suggest such a thing? Other members have said stuff of similar or worse content, yet you took it in stride.

Also, I never said you got off on anything. Just that there are sickos out there who do, and the internet provides the perfect cloak for their behavior. I can see how my "sarcastic comment" would suggest that, though.

 

Yeah, I took it in stride... and now it's coming to a head. If you can't see that through my recent posts, you're blind. I'm starting to NOT take it in stride, b/c nobody knows the whole story.

I mean nothing negative towards you, and I'm not trying to be an butthead.

And you DID suggest that MAYBE " those people " get off on this kind of stuff.

And you DID say that it would " surprise you " if this wasn't one of those cases.

Don't backpedal man. I know where you stand on this. It's evident. Thanks for echoing what others have said. It didn't accomplish anything, other than to just stir the pot.. like I said.

With much respect-

Wolfpack

 

Oi Vey! This is a sticky situation.

I know what its like to have a parent go down with cancer and such J, my mom passed away 2 years ago. I wish you and your father the best of luck. I hope you get this all worked out and are able to move on with you life.

 

yeah, it's tough. my dad has had renal cell carcinoma (cancer of the kidney) and my mom just beat breast cancer. hell, i've beat lymphoma. it's tough and it's stressful. add to that the financial burden, and it can overwhelm you. however, that's not a reason to alienate the very people who could have been there to support you if you wouldn't have screwed them before all this happened...

again, Wolfpack, check out Matthew 21:22 if you get a chance - the way i see it, "you are what you make of yourself".

 

I completely agree, but since he has been hearing it from all sides as of late, I though I might not "stir the pot" and offer up a little support.

The fact of the matter is, this needs to be resolved so that all involved can go about their ways.

 

I've got nothing against you either. I don't kinow you, so I have no reason to dislike you. I know what you've done from the post, but there are also a few things I don't agree with and I think are kinda "shady", so to speak... such as not wanting to sell your gun to pay off a debt. I'm sorry, but paying debts are a much bigger priority than owning a gun. It doesn't take long to liquidate assets... and sometimes you gotta make sacrifices for the greater good. Ergo, selling something for less than you think it's worth to get the money quicker.

I did suggest that they get off on how gullible they can make some people seem by toying with their emotions and the like to get what they want. Yes, there are people out there like that.

I should have picked a better way to phrase what I said, but generally, yeah. I've yet to see a case where someone owes somebody something and they can't pay for it because their life has turned to hell on earth and any of what they said was actually true. I hope this is the first.

I'm not trying to stir the pot. I just don't think this kind of behavior should have to be tolerated for as long as it's been.

The last thing I want to do is pick a fight. So for that, I'll not say another condensending word about you on this thread or anywhere else. Part of the reason for my post was I was mainly curious if my theory was right. Sorry if I stepped on some toes in the process.

 

Jason,

With all do respect, your thinking isn't correct, healthy, or productive to you at this point. IMO.

May I suggest you take some time out and read Way of the Peaceful Warrior

http://www.danmillman.com/

It's short and shouldn't take more than a day to read, but read it. It's not how far you fall, its how high you bounce that's important. Making excuses and clinging to physical attatchments tells me you have a ways to fall yet.

Best of luck to you.

 

Since this is still about $$$, and Churnd has pointed out that people make excuses that are false to avoid paying...

I like to point out that I've already given Brian HALF of what I owe him.... I haven't avoided giving him $$$. I gave him $300 and I still owe him $300.b

And while I've only given Jeremy small amounts of what I owe him ($100 here, $120 there, and so on) I DID purchase an entire CAR for him to scavenge a motor out of, as repayment of my debt to him. I also paid the cable bill for the entire time we lived together, AND I paid the gas bill while we lived together.... I also paid the full deposit for the home we lived in... $1200 that I didn't have access to for a full year... The bills have NOTHING to do with the $$$ I owe him, but in the WHOLE scheme of things, he only paid power and rent, I paid rent, gas and cable. I was expected to do so by Jeremy b/c our other roommate couldn't cover his part of the expenses... I even had to cover his rent a few times... sure I got the $$$ later, but I'm not a bank, just like Jeremy isn't a bank.... All these things prevented me from taking that $$$ and giving it to Jeremy...do I expect credit for this? No. But don't paint me as some deadbeat guy who hasn't come through in the past with $$$, b/c I'm not.

It's being painted like I've been avoiding paying these guys all together... which is NOT the case.

I'm also painted like a non-reliable person, or a person that isn't willing to do things for people.

Apparently we're quick to forget that:

A. I drove to Greensboro (1.5hours from here) and picked up Brian's rig. I ordered (with his credit card # that he trusted me with, with NO issues) his axles, air compressor, air manifold, etc... AND I ordered and PAID for his ARB lockers, gears, and setup kits, WITHOUT hesitation with my own $$$... WELL over the $600 that I owe him now... and then he paid me back. I also completely disassembled and rebuilt his front axle, and spent the time to show him how to reassemble and rebuild his front axles. In addition I removed both of his 3rd members, carried them to MY GEAR guy to have the gears and lockers installed, picked them back up, and reinstalled them. I also took the time to have a compression test performed, and a tune up done. New plugs, wires, a cap, and rotor were installed (paid for by Brian) as well as a MSD ignition box. There are other things, but the point is this. I did ALL OF THIS... for FREE. I would have NEVER asked for ANY $$$ at all from Brian. That's the kind of person I am. I'd do ANYTHING for anyone, as long as I have the capability.

B. I helped remove the original 3.0 liter motor from Jeremy's truck. I helped him locate and transport the original motor that he picked up from Japan Direct. I helped him locate and pick up the original transmission that he wanted to use... we drove all the way to Greenville to pick it up. I helped him move his truck around multiple times... I drove out to different places to help him with wiring, and spent countless hours doing the wiring for him to get his engine running. I spent time giving him my best advice on fuel systems, fuel pumps, lifts, shocks, springs, motors, etc. I ordered and had to cancel orders for parts, costing me restocking fees, time, and $$$. I located and purchased a parts donor/motor donor car for Jeremy. I did so many more things for Jeremy, selflessly, and w/o complaint. To the point where Jeremy and I started to not get along b/c it was almost like he EXPECTED me to do it for him... but we resolved that, and we're beyond that. AGAIN. The point is that I am a selfless person, who is willing to go above and beyond what's necessary to help anyone... much/just like Jeremy did when he loaned me $$$ in my time of need.

I'm simply in a bad spot of my life, and I'm trying to make things right. A BAD person would NOT have done the things I did. Hell... most of the people on this board would not have done the things I did for Brian, a person I only knew from conversations on IM... but I DID... and I'd do it again, b/c that's the kind of person I am.

The amount of $$$ involved in both cases wouldn't BEGIN to touch the amount of $$$ in labor/time that I saved both Brian and Jeremy. I definitely don't expect credit for that, but I would like it to be acknowledged. I'm being painted as a freeloading guy who owes $$$, and hasn't done anything for Brian or Jeremy.

That's just not the case.

And before anyone starts thinking that I'm mad at Jeremy or Brian... think again. I feel bad about the situation and where we are. I'm ready for a resolution just as much as they are. And when I can resolve it. I will. Period.

Jason

 

I think there is apparently a LOT more to this situation than any of us understand, and having spoken with Jason last night on the phone, it is obvious to me that his heart is in the right place and he is truly doing what he can to fix the situation - regardless of the fact that he has spent a lot of his $$ on things for the other parties involved.

 

I appreciate your opinion. Thanks.

But you're not me. Something that might make me happy, or provide me with a glimmer of hope, may not work for you. You might not take joy in certain things that I do.

In my current situation....I HAVE to have SOMETHING to make me happy. I don't care if any of you understand that... I get it, and it works for me.

I'm tired of people saying I'm making " excuses ". I've stated the FACTS of the situation, and I've been open and honest about what I can and can't do, what I will and won't do.

No one on this board can tell me that it's a good idea to take a large financial loss on two vehicles when I'm looking @ needing a large amount of money for the next long haul. It's just not good sense to sell now, to get a little money, when in a short while, I can get much more. I have to look to the future way down the road... not the immediate future.

I know how to handle things, and I'm working on it. Thank you again for your respect and your advice. I'll look into that book.

J

 

Rocky-

I'm happy that I was able to speak to someone (especially you) about this... especially as upset and frustrated as I was last night. I appreciate your understanding, and you willingness to listen and attempt to understand what has brought me to this place. I only hope that no one attempts to ridicule you for making the above statement. The conversation we had really allowed me to calm myself, and get myself in a better place. I thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart, for being such a wonderful person to a total stranger. You renew my faith in human kind.

I was never trying to plead my case to Rocky, or get her on my side. There is SO MUCH more to this that I could type, or care to type, b/c frankly... it's not anyone's business. My heart IS in the right place people. Now I just have to act on this as soon as I can.


Jason

 

Would the folks you helped with their cars be willing to help turn wrenches on your cruiser to prepare for sale, provided replacements are ready to go? just a thought.

I think you will be lucky to get 14K on the FZJ, if you do it will take some time to sell, with gas the way it is now not many people want a 9 mpg beast. It is a nice looking truck though. You are going to have to weigh the numbers, do you wait to find a decent paying buyer in the meantime stacking up more debt, or do you take the loss and clear the slate? Don't feel bad though, I was 5k in the hole from a vw that was a POS, that some guy dragged of my driveway.

If you don't sell the gun, put it out of reach, like at dad's house, you can take words back but not bullets. I sold my beloved 1911 Gov't model Colt, sad day, but it was for the best, I was/am drinking.


Pearl of wisdom:
Don't ever say things can't get worse. They will

 

You're right about this.... the Cruzah will definitely HAVE to be sold to an enthusiast. A WEALTHY enthusiast.

Jason

 

HOLY COW! Don't you people have day jobs?

J,

Fact: I have never denied or dismissed the things you did. I was and am appreciative and always will be.

Fact: The services and tasks mentioned above, you suggested/offered to do.

Fact: When you paid for my stuff with your money, I paid you back immediately.

All the other stuff is immaterial and inconsequential to me at the present.

Do I feel for you and your situation? Sure I do.

Do I feel sorry for you? Yep. It is sad that I've lost a friend.

Do I still want my $300? You bet your LC and your Supra I do...and I expect to see it soon.

This has gotten way out of hand as it has been almost a year now.

 

I agree. On all points.

As I stated earlier... I don't expect a medal or credit for what I did... only that it's acknowledged THAT I did it. This thread makes it look like I just took $$$ from you and did absolutely nothing. Furthermore, you deleted your original post regarding the things I have done for you, making me look even worse.

I'm glad you've again acknowledged everything again, and as I've told you before, and stated over and over. As soon as I have the $$$ to go, you'll have it.

 

I'll put the original post back up and link to it from here...but I don't have a copy of it at home...it is at work...so it'll have to wait until tomorrow.

 

you can sell me your hp 80 front center diff and i will send brian the $300

 

Add another $800 to that, and you've got a deal.

It's got 5.29's, and an ARB locker, remember?

 

Original Posting Restored 09-16-05 (restored at original post too)

Here it is:

Well, I was hoping it would not come to this, but it has been many months in the making and I am weary of the journey thus far, so I am ending it here.

Please don’t bother to ask me any questions concerning specific details as I’m posting everything relevant here and I will not respond, reply or post to this thread or to any emails or PMs. It ends here with this post. If I wrote it ALL out it would be a short novel, so for the sake of brevity and my sanity, here it is in its condensed version. This is my first and last post on this matter, so read it and feel free to comment as you fit, but don’t expect anything else from me please. I’m done with it and I am cutting my losses and moving on. If anything else happens as a result, I’ll consider it gravy, but I have come to the point where I don’t expect anything anymore. I will not be so naïve as to trust anyone I don’t know personally again. While I hope to not become so cynical that I group all of you into this category, please forgive my lack of willingness to be so gullible again. I do consider many of you my friends, but it will be a long time before I exhibit such trust towards a “stranger” again. Call me what you will, but I think I’ll err on the part of cynicism from now on.

Friendship is a fickle thing these days and I was hoping that I had found an online friend upon whom I could trust and depend on, but is seems not to have been the case entirely.

Many of you have followed the purchase and subsequent build-up of the 85 4Runner that I obtained from Stump1183(Scott) here on Yotatech. Here are the details as best I remember them, so read on…

Upon purchasing the 85 from Scott in September/October, I needed a way to pick up the 85 from him since he was in NC and I was in AL. I planned to go to NC and trailer it back to AL. I honestly don’t remember how WolfpackTLC got involved, but he ended up receiving the vehicle on my behalf and keeping at his home for at least a month until I could come and pick it up. I do appreciate his willingness to do this for me and I am not ungrateful for his effort, so don’t see it as anything different.

My trip to NC to retrieve my 85 was postponed at least twice over this month’s time due to the fact that he was either in the middle of supposedly working on the vehicle or something came up. All the supposed work was at his offer, not at my suggestion. I have my suspicions about the actuality of both of these accounts considering the condition of the vehicle upon my arrival. He did purchase several items on my behalf while he had the 85 in his possession, gears, ARB, longfields, and a compressor, and appeared to save me some money, so for that I am grateful as well. He offered to sell me a trailer and his used 35s that he currently had in his possession and I agreed to purchase them after seeing some pictures and paid him for them. But after several other things seemed to go awry, I had my suspicions that things were not entirely as they seemed, so I borrowed a friend’s trailer and reluctantly drove to NC to pick up the rig, unsure of what exactly to expect. It was a good thing I did as his trailer was not roadworthy enough for a 10 hour drive home towing my precious new investment.

When I arrived in NC, nothing had been done to my 85 as he had spoken of to me via emails and on the phone, except for some engine check work for which he had a receipt, but most of that I now consider mute, since I had to end up doing a rebuild anyway. We worked during the weekend on getting the front axle done with the help of a friend of his, for which I am also grateful, but we did not get things completed and I trailered the rig and brought it home to finish the process at home. I am also grateful for his hospitality in housing me while I was there.

Currently, there are several unresolved issues concerning items that I feel he owes me, as he has promised to come through on this on numerous occasions, but has failed to do so over that past 2-3 months with something always coming up to delay/postpone the transaction. These issues are concerning the following:

• repayment for his (my) trailer
• a spare tire for the set
• my old birfields (which I forgot)
• my 54 mm socket
• calipers for the rear
• and a 2nd transfer case.

We agreed that for the balance of the trailer that I paid for he would get the above to me at his expense. I figure all in all I am out at least $600, maybe more depending on the value you place on different items, but whatever the balance, I count it now all chalked up to a hard lesson learned. I shall never be so naïve again.

I communicate all these things here not to bash him, not to publicly chastise him, not even in the hopes of getting what I feel is rightfully mine, but with the feeling that I would be derelict in my responsibility to this forum and in my personal responsibility to honesty and integrity. I would also feel completely horrible and personally responsible if something like this should plague someone else on this forum because I was too cowardly to speak up for fear of offending someone.

That is all.