I personally think that public comments should be out at this point, it is not between all of yotatech, just 3 members.

I also have a thing to say to you bamchem, your a good guy, dont take this wrong, but shut up dude, you sound like your trying to be jason's parents with the whole, NO you need to sell your toys and get another job thing, I may be wrong but it isnt your place to tell another person what to do. I know that your trying to help by saying things like that, and your right about not alienating your friends, but sometimes things just happen bro, not intentional, but things just happen.

I have had a bad few years, my dad broke his neck in a car wreck, actually had doctors tell me to say goodbye, he survived, only then to witness my mom go through hell after she wrecked her motorcycle, once again, doctors told me to say my goodbye. my parents are now divorced after all this happend, and im in debit up to my eyeballs, and people also owe me a ลลลล-ton of money, but im not bitching, life goes on.

Jason, best of luck to you with your struggles man, if you need someone to talk to, you can find me here,

Brian, sorry about your money, I see both sides and this isnt a good situation at all. Hope that it clears up and by-gones can be by-gones.

wade

 

things happen, heh? well, i was a senior in high school w/ big plans when i was diagnosed with advanced cancer during spring break. i know about bad things happening to good people. i know about adversity. i know about literal life and death situations.

i also know that it's during those times when a person's true character shows.

i didn't sit around in my sorrow. luckily enough, i had good family and good friends to support me but most importantly, i had my faith in God to get me thru. that's the one thing that sustained me.

brian is a very good friend of mine. i'm defensive of that. who are you again? how are you connected to the situation?

thank's for your $0.02. now i'll continue to do what i've been doing - not letting this die until brian get's a fair deal...

 

Well, You probably wouldnt know me if i told you who I was, and I know that it wouldnt matter to you anyways.

You were brought on with some serious hardships, your family pulled through as well as your friends to make it easier for you to handle. Im glad you found god, or I should probably say, had faith in god.

I probably came off wrong when I wrote what I wrote, but you kind of sound like a dick by the posts when you were acting like his mommy, he is a grown man, he can make his own decisions, he needs no one to tell him what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. If you wanted to comment on selling his vehicles, possibly you should put it in a differnt manner, not a demand.

He owes brian 300 dollars, fair enough, he does owe that debit, the whole board is aware, its been going on for quite some time, I perosnally think that its time to let this go, and the keep pursuing the monetary funds in a differnt matter,

Is it possible Jason didnt want to reveal what is going on in his life to 11,637 people, most of which he has no clue who they are? probably not.

In my opinion, this didnt speed payment up any quicker and is now somewhat kicking him while he is down.

 

Sounds like you need to heed your own opinion.

 

I was thinking that when I wrote it,

as it stands right now, ive tossed my.08 cents in,

good-bye.

wade

 

The turn of this thread is truly disheartening. Not just the subject matter, but the intentions behind it, whether direct or alterior. No one needs those kind of life events brought out for all to see, much less the public humiliation brought about them.

 

wow, a whole 8 posts on this board and you're an expert on this particular situation...

 

Low post counts may not correlate to non-involvement. I'm on YT all day, nearly every day, and been a member a tad longer than you, but have 1/10 the posts.

 

my point was more to the fact that he doesn't even know anyone involved and i seriously doubt that he's either followed the whole sordid 10-month-long story or even read all 8 pages before posting his response....

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nevermind. i don't have to defend my actions to you or anyone else on this board...
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I did read all 8 pages of this deal. No I dont know anyone, all I need to know is whats written. IMO this coulda stayed behind closed doors, not on a public forum. All I said was IMO it was handled in a good way. Who said anything about being an expert? Its apparent your not either.

 

it's been 10 months. half was paid after 7 months.

what's your suggestion at keeping others from getting in a similar situation than making it known to everyone? that's why this was originally started...

at least you read all 8 pages. the other people haven't even bothered to do that and still spout off w/o the facts.

it could have been handled offline as easily as the debt could have been paid months ago BEFORE all this other stuff happened. that's the point... i feel sorry for him now, but the majority of the problems he's talking about now have only developed in the last few months. he had plenty of opportunity and time to pay the debt BEFORE he got in a bind. now that he's in a tough spot, he has excuses. before, he had nothing.

he could have paid $50 per month and it would be close to being paid by now, but instead, he still owes $300, and has yet to offer to make payments of any sort. this hasn't happened over a matter of days or weeks, but over MONTHS - nearly a YEAR...

it's simple to me. if J would have only paid the debt - he could have avoided stuff like this from happening. in my opinion, the ball has been in his court for 10 months now and he's repeated dropped it BEFORE the other hurdles popped up in front of him. he's admitted to that. he agrees that he screwed up. i'm not chastizing him about that anymore. he knows he did wrong and so does everybody else.

he says he want's to make it right and pay brian what is owed. when that happens, i'll drop this completely.

oh, and have you also seen that i've not only offered advise on how to get the money, but i've also offered some spiritual advise and have also prayed for him and his family?

 

Andy-

This time, I'm going to disagree with you. I've had hurdles in my life WAY before the last few months... hell.. I had hurdles in my life WHILE I was helping Brian. I only posted about my most recent problems b/c I got tired of people making me out to be some sack o' crap w/ no reason...

I've always internalized my issues, and dealt w/ them that way... I've learned recently to accept them, and work on them, so it's easier to talk about them. No, I didn't want to talk about my recent issues online anymore than I wanted to talk about my past issues.

The issue also remains that regardless of my issues, I know and acknowledge a debt to Brian and Jer. I do... in the past, I made promises to Brian w/o making him privy to the issues in my life, b/c I truly thought I could make good and still deal. I was wrong. I also didn't think that I had/should tell Brian about all the problems I was having, b/c I didn't want to seem like I was using them as excuses... then, or NOW... b/c I'm not.

But I realized, through all of this... all I should have done was tell Brian what was going on, instead of trying to burn both ends of the candle. I feel like if I just told him my hardships, and gave him a SOLID answer as to when I could have him all his $$$, then this could have been avoided... but you live and learn. Regardless of your opinion, I am principled, and I do posses character. That should be evident in all the things I've done for many members of this board, including Brian and Jer. And it was my desire to keep him happy that caused me to make promises that I wasn't 100% sure I could keep, but did my best to do so, and failed. And for that.. .again... I'm sorry.

 

lack of character is prob harsh... more like temp lack of judgement on your part. i think you're basically a good guy w/ a good heart that got into some "little white lies" over your head and now other stuff has piled on top.

i think you would like to do what's right, but i don't think that you're doing all that could have been done.

as brian's friend, i do appreciate the efforts you have made and i hope you get thru this time in your life OK. there's so many things more important than money or reputation or toys.

if nothing else, i hope you learn from this. it sounds like you are...

 

The plain and simple facts of what happended, I have no problem with. The particulars of how on repayment, no problem. The advice given to him about repayment, no problem. Spiritual advice, no problem. His debt owing, not contesting or debating. The turn I was refering to was when he laid all out about his lifes happenings. Personally I see that as a stoppin point for this thread. His lifes happenings didnt need to be dragged out as such. In reading the enitire ordeal as written, it almost seems he was trying to get around those facts without making them public knowledge. That is what I was refering to. If I need any advice, Id ask you guys. I dont know any one of you from the next. Except for a very small few. You wont see me give advice on here either. Especially life advice. Ill give it, just no publicly. Again, this is all IMO. Whether it be right or wrong, who knows.

 

i'll respect that.

 

The man is correct.

 

(you can always) go back and delete your posts. (you can also) ask anyone who quoted them to delete them as well. it's only there for others to read if you choose to leave it there.

 

The thread escalated to the point where I felt that the only way I'd get any sort of " understanding " was to make my plight public knowledge.

It's already out there, so I'll leave it.

You all know where I stand, and what I'm trying to do, so I'll leave it with that as well.

On a related note... is was NOT me that did what Jeremy thought I did. We/I had our suspicions, and I informed the detective of them. From what I've seen (but not yet been told) a new suspect has joined the fray, and he is MUCH MORE likely to be the guy they're looking for, ie a strong lead, and not me. I sure as hell didn't do it.

 

If he deletes them, he will continue to receive rude comments from people and it will continue to appear as though this is a situation where he has simply chosen to be a fraudulent guy.

I know that in posting what he has, he has received a lot of support from people, and at least it reiterates the fact that he is trying to do the right thing and has his heart in the right place.

If he wants to delete it, that's fine and of course up to him, but I don't think he should be pressured into that ...



Plus, it tends to piss the moderators off if you delete posts ... and makes you look suspicious even when you're not.

 

i'm not pressuring. it was a reminder of another option he has since some ppl didn't think it should be public knowledge...