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Old 04-07-2007 | 11:52 PM
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Trail 404, AZ revisited

Westy and I decided to head back out to the Camp Creek area and try to tie in a unexplored technical side canyon with Trail 404 and then on to the Verde. We had originally hoped to cross the Verde and tie this all in with Log Corral... but the big river only allowed one crossing, and we needed a few more to make it all work.

Saw a Gila monster in the creek right of the bat. A rare find, even in AZ.


First obstacle into the tech section was pretty tight...


Sure it will fit... well, pretty sure... well, just go slow


Westy flexing through


Encroaching foliage (I swear there is a trail here)


We walked up the creek to get an idea how doable the unknown tech sections where going to be. Both looked possible, so we decide to give them a try.

Entering first obstacle


Westy on the same


Bit off camber with an aggressive twist... but traction was stout


Westy needs only one rear wheel


Hmmmm.... no way to back up now


The golden line


Entering section two


Westy at the same spot


Sure didn't look that steep before


I'd like to personally thank Marlin for this controllable wheelstand


Westy makes it look a little too easy


Trail 404 has this amazingly tight box canyon. How tight? If Westy was 1" wider at the tires he would still be wedged in there as I type this.

"Oh man... you've got plenty of room... quit your whining!!"


Assessment of vehicle width has never been one of my strong points.


This section feels like a mini version of Lions Back. Very mini, but still fun


Finally made it to the Verde. Was a great way to go as a slot canyon just ends right at the bank. Girlfriend tested the waters depth. (I'll have to keep her around )

I crossed first... no issues


Westy followed just as easily


After screwing around trying to find a route to Log Corral, we were defeated by the water level and returned to civilization.

Parting shot


All in all it was a great day with some very tight trails with amazing views. The desert is close to full bloom. For the locals... get out there and enjoy it before things get to hot.

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Old 04-07-2007 | 11:59 PM
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looks like you guys had a good time
Old 04-08-2007 | 12:48 AM
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very cool pictures. thanks for sharing!
Old 04-08-2007 | 06:53 PM
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Great day yesterday...thanks Micki for the good photos!

This really shows a good perspective of the climbs out of the wash -
Old 04-08-2007 | 07:38 PM
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Wow, I would crap myself during some of those ascents. I'm alway worried stuff will roll under waaaay milder conditions. Looks awesome, maybe someday I'll be willing to put my runner through this kind of ringer. Good pics!
Old 04-09-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?

Westy, whats your OAW?
Old 04-09-2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Symon623
Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?
The river depth stopped the progress. Where we crossed the first time was wide enough to drop the water level. Upstream the banks get narrow and steepen, making the water deeper and faster.

We might have been able to ford again, but we would have had to cross 3 more times to make this particular route work. Although, I have been looking online through some satellite shots and believe I have found another way to link to Log Corral with only 1 river crossing.
Old 04-09-2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvota
The river depth stopped the progress. Where we crossed the first time was wide enough to drop the water level. Upstream the banks get narrow and steepen, making the water deeper and faster.

We might have been able to ford again, but we would have had to cross 3 more times to make this particular route work. Although, I have been looking online through some satellite shots and believe I have found another way to link to Log Corral with only 1 river crossing.
Google Earth is awesome ain't it? Hopefully I'll have mine done by June to be able to try some of these runs.
Old 04-09-2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Symon623
Looks like a good time, why were you guys denied? Run out of daylight?

Westy, whats your OAW?
OAW? What measurement are you asking for? Sidewall to sidewall?
Old 04-09-2007 | 02:06 PM
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I've been using mostly the MapQuest aerial view, but have heard great things about Google.

I just type in the nearest intersection to the trails and start scrolling. I only get a fuzzy image if I scroll well into the wilderness. I don't now how it compares to Google, but I have found tons of trails and washes that would have taken forever to link together on the ground.

You'll have to let us know when you get rolling. The more the merrier.

And Westy is the benchmark for making the "Squeeze" section. I can't imagine anyone being wider and still making it through.

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Old 04-10-2007 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by westy44runner
OAW? What measurement are you asking for? Sidewall to sidewall?
Yea....the one that would get you into a wedgy?

I think I'm 78, if I remember correctly.
Old 04-10-2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvota
I've been using mostly the MapQuest aerial view, but have heard great things about Google.

I just type in the nearest intersection to the trails and start scrolling. I only get a fuzzy image if I scroll well into the wilderness. I don't now how it compares to Google, but I have found tons of trails and washes that would have taken forever to link together on the ground.

You'll have to let us know when you get rolling. The more the merrier.

And Westy is the benchmark for making the "Squeeze" section. I can't imagine anyone being wider and still making it through.
I'll be checkin out Mapquest stuff......

I was concerned if I would have any inssues through there, I am wider than stock.
Old 06-08-2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Symon623
Yea....the one that would get you into a wedgy?

I think I'm 78, if I remember correctly.
I'm at ~82" I believe.
Old 06-08-2007 | 03:07 PM
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Joy another trail that I'm unable to take. lol !!
Anyways nice pictures.
Old 06-08-2007 | 03:21 PM
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Actually you COULD take it! At least the parts that we did wed night. No problem!!
Old 06-08-2007 | 03:49 PM
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Great pictures.
I never get tired of looking at the trip report section.

Lots of great rigs here on YotaTech.
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