YOTA666

Hey guys, I am plannin on SAS'ing my 88 4runner in the next month or so. I have a miller 180 mig welder that I was hoping to use. Does anyone have any experience with this welder/know if its capable of penetrating enough to get a nice strong weld?

Thanks!

toylocost

I've never done one before but I would guess youd want a 220 welder for the hangers at least.

TOYOTA 1

if its this one http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...c_180_autoset/ it should be perfect. there should be a rating table on the inside panel.

toylocost

ah, there you go. Info from someone who knows what they are talking about. That one is 220. lol

swapped89

I borrowed a miller 220 from my buddy to do my swap. But me and my dad recently split the cost on a used miller 172 challenger 220 volt. i use it for everything and if i had it when i did my swap i would be confident it would do the job just fine. You should be good with the 180 just get the settings right before you have at it

drew303

180 is plenty capable!

fillsrunner4

I used it for my sas and more. Will work great for ya.

YOTA666

Sweet thanks alot for all the replies!

4rnr

ah thats my dream welder!

I did my sas with a 110v flux core lincoln, as well as my cage, and every other cage, slider, bumper, etc...ive ever fabbed. And My welds have never broke. And many people on this board will vouch for my abusive testing.

#@%* the haters

bigt

wow 4rnr that is some good inspiration!!!
i just went to gas in my little lincoln cause im building a suzuki body..
but the flux works good for thicker stuff!! good too see this little machine will be fine once the operator gets a little better!

4rnr

Yeah I bought it to learn on and havent upgraded yet. As long as you know what you are doing I believe it to be plenty strong. I have a friend with a miller 180 and he may be selling it soon, and I may pick it up, and convert the lincoln to gas so i can do sheet with it. (Its hard to do sheet well with a flux core). But I cant really justify it. I love look on peoples faces when they are looking over my truck and find out that my welds (that ive been beating on for years) are 110 flux.

algranger

Right on man i'm still running one of those i've fabricated hangers welded them on along with all sorts of other stuff

I know Plumbrbob runs one too

YOTA666

you guys are nuts! hahaha, I'd never trust my welds with a 110 volt welder! Are your trucks strictly for offroad use only?? I'd be paranoid about my axles fallin out goin like 80 down the highway.

4rnr

I drive everywhere. I never trailer. Infact im going to drive it 2000 miles in mid June and hit 4 or 5 offroad parks from MO to WI.

2 years ago I was ran off the road into a ditch at high speed and I slammed my drivers front tire into a 4ft tall drain at about 40 mph, and it peeled my entire axle housing back like a pretzle, and stuffed the tire into the floor board. I didnt break one weld. In fact the only weld I have broke (on my cage) was from a 220V miller that had a dirty gun and an idiot pulling the trigger. I caught the hair line crack...dressed it and patched it with the 110.


If I listened to everything the internet told me I can and cant do with my truck....Id be driving a minivan.

904_runner

I used a 110v miller for my sas, then i recently bought a 110v lincoln for my own.

If you arn't going to trust your welds with a 110v welder then maybe you should have someone else weld.


Wait...

Dont' you have a mini van too?

4rnr

good god no!!!

fj62, 88 4runner, 92 4runner, and for a few more days a fj43 that im building a roll cage for.....it is a beautiful truck, I never new how hard it would be to steer with a boner.

904_runner

yea, i was just kidding about the mini van.

YOTA666

I guess i should have specified it wasn't my welding that I didn't trust it was the welder haha...

I've never used a 110, so I didnt know it was powerful enough to penetrate but you learn something new everyday!

904_runner

If you prep the metal good, turn the welder up and go slowly, it should be fine if you know how to weld.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Most 110 machines will weld 5/16 in a single pass with flux core so it really shouldn't be surprising to do a SAS with one.

However, welding is not just a machine, but knowing how to use it.

If you have access to a 220 machine with MIG then use it for your SAS. A lot cleaner than flux core and you will be assured proper penetration, or at least more leeway for error.

I have a Lincoln Pro MIG 135 and a Miller 251 and love them both and prefer them both for different things.