4Runner lug nut just spins

Kyle95sr5 · 11-11-2008, 08:38 AM

My friend has a 99 4runner with the Enkei (sp?) wheels. He came over the other day to rotate tires and do an oil change and whoever previously tightened his lug nuts did a very good job. It was absolutely all I could do to break them free with a hand lug wrench. Well, one of his lug nuts just spins freely. It is still tight, but I can turn it over and over again and it shows no sign of loosening. I think the fix would be to find a way to get the nut off and replace the wheel stud...but how? How would you remove the lug nut? There is no room to cut it off from the front so It would have to be done coming in from the rear. Any ideas guys? Also, if the original wheel stud just spins then I can't put in another wheel stud can I? Wouldn't it just spin too? Is there a way to put a wheel stud with a larger head into the original location?

Skrillah · 11-11-2008, 04:16 PM

Thats a tough one...i'm not sure man...hopefully someone can help you out on that one.

TOYOTA 1 · 11-11-2008, 04:20 PM

hmm.. try an air gun, i think the impact will take it off!

BigBluePile · 11-11-2008, 04:24 PM

Your best chance is probably with an impact gun. I've had that happen to me as well and that's how I got it off. Not, sure how you would get to it from the rear...You might be able to reuse that stud once you get the darn thing off, but a replacement stud of the same size should work too.

Gerdo · 11-11-2008, 06:16 PM

I would say impact also. You should exert some pressure to pull on the wheel. Outward pressure should help.

*** WARNING**** Make sure the vehicle is well suported like on a lift. Even on a lift or jack stands, if you push hard enough you can push the vehicle off the lift.

bigt · 11-11-2008, 06:49 PM

GONNE NEED THIS

and a nice impact and maybe a torch...

Yodaforce · 11-11-2008, 06:57 PM

Another result of a dummy with an impact gun! Some idiot got torque happy with air.

I remove them (like stated above) by getting some pressure pushing out on the nut or wheel. See, there are no threads where the nut is, so as you try to loosen it (with air gun or ratchet), you need to get it to bite on the outward threads that are left. It sould start to turn off. It is not easy, but that's the ONLY way it's going to come off. That stud is trash, so be prepared to replace it once you get it off. By the way, remove ALL of the other lugs off that wheel before attempting (Duh!). Maybe even jam a flat screwdriver or thin prybar behind the wheel to apply pressure.

Nismo Convert · 11-12-2008, 08:29 AM

It soiunds like the splines on the other end of the stud that hold them in to the hub have stripped the hub so the only way to get it off is from the back side or by cutting the nut off, either way the stud will have to be replaced afterwards, and maybe a larger diamter one installed. remember studs are a small interference fit.

SC4Runner · 11-12-2008, 08:41 AM

Yep, some idiot with the impact wrench. I'd just take it to a shop, but, I'm lazy like that.

Gerdo · 11-12-2008, 03:50 PM

You could centerpunch the stud/lugnut and drill it out. Start with a small bit and step up. This will help keep things centered. Ince you get to a big enough bit the nut will fall off.

Ron Helmuth · 11-14-2008, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodaforce

Another result of a dummy with an impact gun! Some idiot got torque happy with air.

I remove them (like stated above) by getting some pressure pushing out on the nut or wheel. See, there are no threads where the nut is, so as you try to loosen it (with air gun or ratchet), you need to get it to bite on the outward threads that are left. It sould start to turn off. It is not easy, but that's the ONLY way it's going to come off. That stud is trash, so be prepared to replace it once you get it off. By the way, remove ALL of the other lugs off that wheel before attempting (Duh!). Maybe even jam a flat screwdriver or thin prybar behind the wheel to apply pressure.

Very descriptive and most helpful Yodaforce.

The Enkei wheels may not be properly designed for the truck. There is such a thing as hub centric and lug centric wheels and lug nuts. I am not aware of Enkei making truck wheels but I could sure be wrong there.

I am thinking this could happen again if the wrong combo is in play. Consult a tire shop. Take it back to the idiot that air gunned it down and make them take it off-just imagine if that tire went flat what a pickle you would be in then....

11-11-2008, 08:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kyle95sr5 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bucklesberry, North Carolina Posts: 1,187	4Runner lug nut just spins My friend has a 99 4runner with the Enkei (sp?) wheels. He came over the other day to rotate tires and do an oil change and whoever previously tightened his lug nuts did a very good job. It was absolutely all I could do to break them free with a hand lug wrench. Well, one of his lug nuts just spins freely. It is still tight, but I can turn it over and over again and it shows no sign of loosening. I think the fix would be to find a way to get the nut off and replace the wheel stud...but how? How would you remove the lug nut? There is no room to cut it off from the front so It would have to be done coming in from the rear. Any ideas guys? Also, if the original wheel stud just spins then I can't put in another wheel stud can I? Wouldn't it just spin too? Is there a way to put a wheel stud with a larger head into the original location? __________________ Kyle SOLD:http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=117624 1995 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 - 31x10.50 BFG ATS - MANIK Brushguard with 2 Hella 500s - Custom roof rack with 4 BAJA lights - Vortex Muffler - Rancho shocks all around - WabFab 1 inch body lift - Dual HU - Infinity Kappas in rear - Pioneers in the front

11-11-2008, 04:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Skrillah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bloomington,Indiana Posts: 797	Thats a tough one...i'm not sure man...hopefully someone can help you out on that one. __________________ 1997 Toyota 4runner 4x4, 2.7L, Auto, 140k miles, KC Slimlites, Bilsteins, Airlift 1000, Custom Westin Push Bar, Brembo/Hawk Pads, Yakima Gear, Midland CB, 265/75/16 Bridgestone Revos (Best tire), Limited 5-spoke rims (Custom),Herculined Rocker Panels, Diff. Breather mod,Deckplate mod,4.56 gearing, Pioneer head unit w/Ipod connection and Sirius Sat. Radio., LC Engineering Exhaust (coming Summer '08)

11-11-2008, 04:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
TOYOTA 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: oregon Posts: 1,390	hmm.. try an air gun, i think the impact will take it off! __________________ 91 Toyota stdrd cab short bed 22re 5spd. sas'ed, Yukon 5:29's. 3.5" tuff country e-z ride springs in the front. 5" allpro long travels in the rear. pro comp es 9000 shocks, 12" tg long spline front d shaft. k&n, 35x10.50x15 boggers. cobra cb/ashtray mod, 3' fire stick. kc slimlites,xrc8 winch,custom front bumper, etc. 2000 Toyota Tacoma xtra cab sr5, 3"revtek,285/70/17 coopers stt, clear tails, injen short ram intake, obx header, flow master, etc. www.22re.com

11-11-2008, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
BigBluePile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Posts: 516	Your best chance is probably with an impact gun. I've had that happen to me as well and that's how I got it off. Not, sure how you would get to it from the rear...You might be able to reuse that stud once you get the darn thing off, but a replacement stud of the same size should work too. __________________ Logan Oliver '86 4Runner SR5 22R-E Complete engine overhaul at 175,000 4" Procomp/Superlift/Rancho 9000x Downey Header/Magnaflow exhaust 315/75R-16 Baja Claws wrapped around AR-23's 4.88's a TrueTrac and All Pro rear disc kit w/emergency disc trans brake BudBuilt skids http://yotatech.com/gallery/showgall...ser=20182&sl=b '06 4Runner Sport 270/65R17 BFG All Terrain KO's

11-11-2008, 06:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gerdo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: SouthWest Littleton, Colorado Posts: 706	I would say impact also. You should exert some pressure to pull on the wheel. Outward pressure should help. * WARNING** Make sure the vehicle is well suported like on a lift. Even on a lift or jack stands, if you push hard enough you can push the vehicle off the lift. __________________ 2000 4Runner Sport, 3.4L, 5 Speed, Custom Front Winch Bumper, Opened intake, K&N Airfilter, BFG A/T LT265/70R16, Bilstein Shocks, FreeFlow Exhaust, Poly Rack Mounts & Swaybar Mounts, Tundra TRDs up front and OME 891s out back. ToyTec Panhard Bar Drop. SS Front Diff Drop. Home-built 2x2 Sliders. See My 4Runner!

11-11-2008, 06:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 2,231	GONNE NEED THIS and a nice impact and maybe a torch... __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X 2-lte turbo diesel with upgraded head tons of cool options you dont get in north America RIGHT HAND DRIVE,auto,push button 4wd,turbo timer,31.1-.50.15 bfgs,factory fender flares,window flares. CAR DOLLY sirius TUNED TO HOWARD 100 trail ifs rig goldie fate unknown blue 93 srf 4runner NEW TRAIL RIG IN POGRESS ifs welded rear few mods for now rebuilding fj 60 series front axle for future s.a.s

11-11-2008, 06:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Yodaforce Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West NC Posts: 239	Another result of a dummy with an impact gun! Some idiot got torque happy with air. I remove them (like stated above) by getting some pressure pushing out on the nut or wheel. See, there are no threads where the nut is, so as you try to loosen it (with air gun or ratchet), you need to get it to bite on the outward threads that are left. It sould start to turn off. It is not easy, but that's the ONLY way it's going to come off. That stud is trash, so be prepared to replace it once you get it off. By the way, remove ALL of the other lugs off that wheel before attempting (Duh!). Maybe even jam a flat screwdriver or thin prybar behind the wheel to apply pressure. __________________ "That's all I have to say about that." -Forrest Gump

11-12-2008, 08:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
Nismo Convert Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kincardine, Ontario Canada Posts: 163	It soiunds like the splines on the other end of the stud that hold them in to the hub have stripped the hub so the only way to get it off is from the back side or by cutting the nut off, either way the stud will have to be replaced afterwards, and maybe a larger diamter one installed. remember studs are a small interference fit. __________________ Current POS': 1986 Mazda RX7 TII. Haltech E6x, Koni Yellows, solid motor mounts, 10psi 290ishwhp Stock turbo, and stock intercooler... 1991 Toyota Corolla, AKA Crolls Royce. Sold 1995 Toyota Tacoma! 2.7L 4WD 5SPD. The Purple People Eater:TrueFlow Filter, Bilstein HD's, Magnaflow cat, 2.5" Lift, Bilstein 5150's, 265 Toyo OC A/T's, Hawk LTS pads, Brembo brakes; thats it... For now... 2009 Corolla Sport, 5spd, stock for a lonnnnnnnnngggggggg time.

11-12-2008, 08:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
SC4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5th Gen San Diegan, California Posts: 5,300	Yep, some idiot with the impact wrench. I'd just take it to a shop, but, I'm lazy like that. __________________ 1996 4x4 3.4L 4Runner on 35's 1966 FJ40 - SOA with stock springs, stock 1F motor, and a smelly tailpipe. Looking to buy some 315/75/16 All terrains FJ80 Landcruiser Coils for sale

11-12-2008, 03:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gerdo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: SouthWest Littleton, Colorado Posts: 706	You could centerpunch the stud/lugnut and drill it out. Start with a small bit and step up. This will help keep things centered. Ince you get to a big enough bit the nut will fall off. __________________ 2000 4Runner Sport, 3.4L, 5 Speed, Custom Front Winch Bumper, Opened intake, K&N Airfilter, BFG A/T LT265/70R16, Bilstein Shocks, FreeFlow Exhaust, Poly Rack Mounts & Swaybar Mounts, Tundra TRDs up front and OME 891s out back. ToyTec Panhard Bar Drop. SS Front Diff Drop. Home-built 2x2 Sliders. See My 4Runner!

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