Long Cranking Time to start 3vze
#21
You do know the FSM only specifies about a 5 minute hold time for fuel pressure, yes?
And no matter WHAT, you really never, ever should drive with the jumper in holding the fuel pump on. It's just asking for an engine fire to do that. The COR, and all the rest, is a very important safety system.To bypass it is asking for trouble. Accidents happen when we least expect them, and most often on short trips, locally. Loosing your truck is one thing, burning alive before the First Responders can even arrive is an entirely different animal.
If you are really concerned about having pressure in the fuel system before a dead cold start, just turn the key to start for a few seconds before pressing the clutch in, or pressing the Clutch Start Cancel switch. You can hear the fuel pump run, and when it's tone changes, press in the clutch. It'll fire right up. I do that in my 87 4Runner, works like a dream.
Anywho, good luck, and have fun!
Pat☺
And no matter WHAT, you really never, ever should drive with the jumper in holding the fuel pump on. It's just asking for an engine fire to do that. The COR, and all the rest, is a very important safety system.To bypass it is asking for trouble. Accidents happen when we least expect them, and most often on short trips, locally. Loosing your truck is one thing, burning alive before the First Responders can even arrive is an entirely different animal.
If you are really concerned about having pressure in the fuel system before a dead cold start, just turn the key to start for a few seconds before pressing the clutch in, or pressing the Clutch Start Cancel switch. You can hear the fuel pump run, and when it's tone changes, press in the clutch. It'll fire right up. I do that in my 87 4Runner, works like a dream.
Anywho, good luck, and have fun!
Pat☺
#22
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You probably replaced them. Your supposed to when you take em lose. I replaced mine halfway through messing with all of this. But i think i got it taken care of. I replaced that cold injector time switch and it still wasn't spraying and i noticed that plug on the cold injector , when i looked at inside where it plugs into those prongs, one side i couldn't see the contacts that fit over the prongs. So i stuffed a piece of wire in that one side and presto, it started spraying. So i put it back together and it cranked right up. So i let it sit over night and it cranked up pretty quick the next morning. And this morning it cranked up after about 4 seconds, and its about 25 degrees this morning. So maybe the cold start injector was the problem the whole time. And if thats the case, then it helps with starting all the time. And fuel will stay in the rail, but it doesn't have pressure after sitting overnight. Some people say the cold start injector only sprays when its a certain temp or cold. But i bet it sprays at any temp to help with start up. Or maybe not when its hot, but after it has sit all night, its supposed to spray. But the time switch probably wasn't even bad, it was that harness the whole time. I tested the injector with 12volts, and it worked, so i thought it was the time switch. But it was the plug. Lesson learned. And learned about how that thing works for myself, cause you wouldn't know if you listen to people say it only sprays when its real cold outside.
#23
Registered User
I'm glad you got it too.
Having said that, the CSI Timing Switch activates when the COOLANT temp is below 80° C. Even a hot day in Yuma, of which there are numerous ones, after sitting a while the coolant will be below 80° C. That's 176° F, and honestly, as hot and miserable as Yuma is, I've never seen a 176° F day!
So yeah, the CSI will be used when the truck's sat for a while. Yes, when the engine is "cold". A relative term, really, but they do have a specification for the coolant temp for it to activate.
Anywho, glad you solved the problem!
Pat☺
Having said that, the CSI Timing Switch activates when the COOLANT temp is below 80° C. Even a hot day in Yuma, of which there are numerous ones, after sitting a while the coolant will be below 80° C. That's 176° F, and honestly, as hot and miserable as Yuma is, I've never seen a 176° F day!
So yeah, the CSI will be used when the truck's sat for a while. Yes, when the engine is "cold". A relative term, really, but they do have a specification for the coolant temp for it to activate.
Anywho, glad you solved the problem!
Pat☺
#24
I'm glad you got it too.
Having said that, the CSI Timing Switch activates when the COOLANT temp is below 80° C. Even a hot day in Yuma, of which there are numerous ones, after sitting a while the coolant will be below 80° C. That's 176° F, and honestly, as hot and miserable as Yuma is, I've never seen a 176° F day!
So yeah, the CSI will be used when the truck's sat for a while. Yes, when the engine is "cold". A relative term, really, but they do have a specification for the coolant temp for it to activate.
Anywho, glad you solved the problem!
Pat☺
Having said that, the CSI Timing Switch activates when the COOLANT temp is below 80° C. Even a hot day in Yuma, of which there are numerous ones, after sitting a while the coolant will be below 80° C. That's 176° F, and honestly, as hot and miserable as Yuma is, I've never seen a 176° F day!
So yeah, the CSI will be used when the truck's sat for a while. Yes, when the engine is "cold". A relative term, really, but they do have a specification for the coolant temp for it to activate.
Anywho, glad you solved the problem!
Pat☺
#25
Registered User
A quick note: the fuel pump is cooled by the fuel around it. Could it be, with 2" of fuel in the tank, the fuel pump is overheating and stopping? It doesn't take very much of that, and the fuel pump is shot. It may work cold, but when it warms up, with no fuel to cool it...
Just a thought. It's possible the fuel pump isn't any good any more.
Pat☺
Just a thought. It's possible the fuel pump isn't any good any more.
Pat☺
#26
A quick note: the fuel pump is cooled by the fuel around it. Could it be, with 2" of fuel in the tank, the fuel pump is overheating and stopping? It doesn't take very much of that, and the fuel pump is shot. It may work cold, but when it warms up, with no fuel to cool it...
Just a thought. It's possible the fuel pump isn't any good any more.
Pat☺
Just a thought. It's possible the fuel pump isn't any good any more.
Pat☺
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