Does my truck look lifted?

Malchick · 11-15-2008, 03:22 PM

I bought it like this and I really don't know if it is stock height or not.

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chuck308 · 11-15-2008, 03:54 PM

trucks looks good. no lift. I have an 83 and i need some pics or diagrams for the front bumper brackets. I have a new oem bumper to replace some after market piece the previous owner had on. Would you be able to see how the bumper is attatched. The brackets i got were really odd shaped and I cant make sense of how they mount. Thanks for any help you can offer. chuck

thewjsand · 11-15-2008, 03:55 PM

I would say "no" off the top of my head. But some would argue that your springs should all be sagging by now for a +25 year old truck. So you could have newer springs under there...

Looks like a solid project, have fun!

ocdropzone · 11-15-2008, 04:31 PM

x3 on the stock heighth. Truck looks like a great base.

nico · 11-15-2008, 04:39 PM

It honestly looks like a 2" lift to me.

**Lysmachia** · 11-15-2008, 04:48 PM

Yeah it looks like there is a little lift... But hard to say without peaking under there...

Um did you? Do you have a body lift, or suspention lift??

90skyhighyota · 11-15-2008, 04:50 PM

im gonna guess no lift just by lookin at the rig but 'thewjsand' could be right about the new springs..

slacker · 11-15-2008, 05:22 PM

I see light .. in the rear wheel well .. between the "skirt" and the frame .. that suggest a body lift ..

No question in my opionion , unless the "lips" have been modified .

jason191918 · 11-15-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slacker

I see light .. in the rear wheel well .. between the "skirt" and the frame .. that suggest a body lift ..

No question in my opionion , unless the "lips" have been modified .

Shouldn't the bumper and the bottom of the tail lights line up a little better too?

dbcx · 11-15-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jason191918

Shouldn't the bumper and the bottom of the tail lights line up a little better too?

It looks like an aftermarket bumper but it does look a little low. Hard to tell from that angle it looks higher than stock to me. get a flat picture from the side and a good one of the rear. A buddy of mine had an 83 that thing was fun and tuff as crap it had a small lift w 33s and it looked huge.

toyota4x4907 · 11-15-2008, 06:14 PM

no lift but maybe new springs like the other guys said. Also, it looks like the wheel wells were maybe trimmed and had some flares put in....

89silverpu · 11-15-2008, 06:31 PM

Take a picture of the suspension and we can help you out more!

jason191918 · 11-16-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 89silverpu

Take a picture of the suspension and we can help you out more!

and the body mounts

4banginRunner · 11-16-2008, 09:06 AM

looks stock height to me
my 79 stock height on 33s

peckm888 · 11-16-2008, 03:55 PM

stock

thedude42 · 11-16-2008, 04:00 PM

looks stock to me maybe new springs, maybe trimmed flares too?!?

4banginRunner · 11-16-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thedude42

looks stock to me maybe new springs, maybe trimmed flares too?!?

flares are deff. not trimmed on that truck

refried · 11-16-2008, 11:20 PM

No lift, No trimming. Stock height

83 · 11-17-2008, 05:32 AM

I notice a pattern....for the most part those who have 1st gen trucks say no lift, those who have later model trucks think there is a lift. These 1st gen trucks sit high. His truck looks just like mine, but maybe mine has a lift...I don't know. I put stock shocks on it and they fit, which I guess doesn't rule out a body lift, but you can't see the frame like I'd expect with a body lift. Unless my truck has a lift, I'd say you've definitely got a stock-height truck. I also agree that there's no trimming and those are definitely the stock fender flares.

Oh yeah, and you can see in my avatar what the front end of these trucks look like with saggy springs. My front leafs are beyond flat, they're actually starting to arch the other way, and that's my ride height up there. The first gens don't really get saggy like the later models, unless they've carried some seriously heavy loads over their lifetime.

zlathim · 11-17-2008, 08:25 AM

Looks stock to me, but it also looks like the springs are in good shape, ie not sagging.

slacker · 11-17-2008, 05:12 PM

only reason I think its 1" body lifted is because of the "light" in the wheel well

4banginRunner · 11-17-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by slacker

only reason I think its 1" body lifted is because of the "light" in the wheel well

thats the bottom of the frame rail

83 · 11-18-2008, 05:23 AM

Yeah, I don't know too much, I just know that my truck looks just like that. But like I said, I could have a lift...but I don't think so. Maybe you can just see the light because the spare tire is in the bed, instead of under it. I don't have a lot of examples around here other than my truck. There are a couple other first gens around, but they are definitely lifted, so I don't have much to compare to. It wouldn't be a huge surprise to me if that truck (and mine) were lifted, but I don't think they are.

slacker · 11-18-2008, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 4banginRunner

thats the bottom of the frame rail

ahhh yes .. bottom of the frame rail , and side/top of back of the fuel tank !!!! The angle of the pic ..

I retract .. NO LIFT .

ocdropzone · 11-18-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slacker

ahhh yes .. bottom of the frame rail , and side/top of back of the fuel tank !!!! The angle of the pic ..

I retract .. NO LIFT .

It's OK you have been smelling fiberglass resin for so long

11-15-2008, 03:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
chuck308 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: athens ga Posts: 5	trucks looks good. no lift. I have an 83 and i need some pics or diagrams for the front bumper brackets. I have a new oem bumper to replace some after market piece the previous owner had on. Would you be able to see how the bumper is attatched. The brackets i got were really odd shaped and I cant make sense of how they mount. Thanks for any help you can offer. chuck __________________ 83SR5 ,4wd, 2nd owner, orig paint and uncracked dash, under restoration,

11-15-2008, 03:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
thewjsand Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 257	I would say "no" off the top of my head. But some would argue that your springs should all be sagging by now for a +25 year old truck. So you could have newer springs under there... Looks like a solid project, have fun! __________________ 2009 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited 6 speed. I'll be back when they restore the 4runner to it's glory. Hate me all you want, i'll still love toyota. SOLD to good home for a full restore. 1985- 22rec w/ 116,000 original miles, 98' 4runner; Charged, 5sp,SOLD 94' 4runner SOLD

11-15-2008, 04:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,108	x3 on the stock heighth. Truck looks like a great base. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS G O O G L E FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

11-15-2008, 04:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
nico Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 156	It honestly looks like a 2" lift to me. __________________ 1981 4WD SR5 Longbed - 22R - L52 - 4.88's - Detroits - 3" Downey springs - MV-12's - 34" LTB's

11-15-2008, 04:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lysmachia Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,955	Yeah it looks like there is a little lift... But hard to say without peaking under there... Um did you? Do you have a body lift, or suspention lift?? __________________ Molly aka Lysmachia 93 4 Runner SAS - All Fixed in Junk Yard Goodness Get your 4x4 VIDEO pr0n here

11-15-2008, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
90skyhighyota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 29	im gonna guess no lift just by lookin at the rig but 'thewjsand' could be right about the new springs.. __________________ -Bucky **1994 Toyota SR5 PickupRockford Fosgate Power Series Speakers and SubJasper Crate motorFiberglass Canopy [ultima toolbox also]4" Lift Kit33x12.50 Cooper Discoverer STT's15x10 Alum WheelsCD PlayerH4 HeadlightsClear lenses and cornersEuro Tail LightsMagnaflow exhaust***

11-15-2008, 05:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 1,844	I see light .. in the rear wheel well .. between the "skirt" and the frame .. that suggest a body lift .. No question in my opionion , unless the "lips" have been modified . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

11-15-2008, 06:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
toyota4x4907 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 1,826	no lift but maybe new springs like the other guys said. Also, it looks like the wheel wells were maybe trimmed and had some flares put in.... __________________ '95 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|126K miles\|2" BL\| 31x10.5 '88 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|206K miles\|Sold '93 single cab\|22re\|5spd\|150K miles\|Sold\| Pro IFS

11-15-2008, 06:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
89silverpu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vacaville/Sierra Nevada Mountains, CA/ UNLV (Las Vegas), NV Posts: 1,460	Take a picture of the suspension and we can help you out more! __________________ '89 Beater Jeep Eater in progress 4.88's, TRD e-locker, 33's, Armored Tread Lightly Have a tech question, search through over 80 sites with one search: http://www.wattora.com/index.php?page_id=72

11-16-2008, 09:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
4banginRunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mount Carmel, PA Posts: 1,643	looks stock height to me my 79 stock height on 33s __________________ Arg, Excuse me if I go Pirate4x4 on you. 87 Toyota 4Runner 22RE--5spd swap (W56)--V6 4.56s--BJ spacers--63" Chevys--2.5" 40 series--late style steering box swap--BudBuilt dual case X-member--V6 calipers--32s--MC rear bumper 79 Toyota Longbed 4x4 20R--L50--Bobbed 16"--Waggy's up front--Ford blocks & an AAL out back--2"BL--J-arm ball flip--32s--4.38s--FJ60 Rotors--V6 IFS calipers--1" MC--Ext. SS brake lines--Marlin HD seals--IFS rear

11-16-2008, 03:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
peckm888 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: central oregon Posts: 55	stock __________________ 1982 toyota pickup, so far... propane conversion, 4:88 gears, celica tranny, 2" shackle lift, 1" body, and 5" leaf springs, u-bolt flip, crossover steering, 14" shock towers with Bilstein 5150 series shocks, costom built bumpers, 4runner bucket seats, 33x12.5-15 firestones, i got 4 low, i'm good to go! Pvt Peck, U.S. Army

11-16-2008, 11:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
refried Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Republic of Cascadia Posts: 147	No lift, No trimming. Stock height __________________ 1981 Shortbed 4x4 Buick 231 V6, Turbo 350 4" springs 35x12.50 15 Bfg MT 300,000+ miles

11-17-2008, 05:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,395	I notice a pattern....for the most part those who have 1st gen trucks say no lift, those who have later model trucks think there is a lift. These 1st gen trucks sit high. His truck looks just like mine, but maybe mine has a lift...I don't know. I put stock shocks on it and they fit, which I guess doesn't rule out a body lift, but you can't see the frame like I'd expect with a body lift. Unless my truck has a lift, I'd say you've definitely got a stock-height truck. I also agree that there's no trimming and those are definitely the stock fender flares. Oh yeah, and you can see in my avatar what the front end of these trucks look like with saggy springs. My front leafs are beyond flat, they're actually starting to arch the other way, and that's my ride height up there. The first gens don't really get saggy like the later models, unless they've carried some seriously heavy loads over their lifetime. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock Last edited by 83; 11-17-2008 at 05:35 AM.

11-17-2008, 08:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
zlathim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,146	Looks stock to me, but it also looks like the springs are in good shape, ie not sagging. __________________ Do you think Einstein walked around thinking everyone was a bunch of dipsticks? Idiocracy (edited for family friendly viewing)

11-17-2008, 05:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 1,844	only reason I think its 1" body lifted is because of the "light" in the wheel well __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

11-18-2008, 05:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,395	Yeah, I don't know too much, I just know that my truck looks just like that. But like I said, I could have a lift...but I don't think so. Maybe you can just see the light because the spare tire is in the bed, instead of under it. I don't have a lot of examples around here other than my truck. There are a couple other first gens around, but they are definitely lifted, so I don't have much to compare to. It wouldn't be a huge surprise to me if that truck (and mine) were lifted, but I don't think they are. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

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